So what does everyone think?

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14SonicLTZ

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About Chevrolet laying off over 500 people from a Chevy Sonic plant due to the excess inventory that they have on site? The Sonic has had a decent incline in sales over the last year...

I am honestly thinking that the Sonic will be phased out eventually... That the Cruze hatch will take its place... Chevrolet did not have one at Sema...

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ChrisRS

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I think most people are very short term when it comes to mileage. Gas is down to 2 bucks and nobody is buying sonic and volts. They will when gas goes back up to 4 bucks. I
 
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14SonicLTZ

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Very true... Chevy is not even planning a full update of the car for at least another 2 years... Whereas you have Honda and Nissan are completely revising their compact segment cars for 2016, ie Honda civic and Nissan Sentra...

Now I would like to see a performance variant come out at some point as well, especially since the new 200hp 1.6 turbo is here in the Buick Cascada... Which I feel was the only way they could get the engine regulated here in the states... Meaning it is slated for other platforms...

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carsNskis

carsNskis

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The Spark RS is a loud neon flashing sign that says "goodbye Sonic"

The 2016 Cruze gets an updated/uprated 1.4t and the Sonic will not. The Sonic also missed the list for Apple Car Play / Android Auto updates, even though it shares the head unit with the Cruze.

Not good indications of a model that will continue (here's hoping it goes out with a bang in SS trim!)

it's not the size, it's how you drive it....
 
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14SonicLTZ

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The Spark RS concept did take a more center stage approach at Sema, but nothing about the Sonic was spoken of...

I wonder what it will do to the resale value of the car? Well should I say lack there of already?

Kind of sad honestly... They seem to have a somewhat solid product... But I guess to little too late...

I do hope that I am wrong and that it is only because of gas prices... Only time will tell...

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Natesriv

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I tried to post on this awhile back, it never came up... :(
But, yeah I think the Sonic will probably be phased out. The new Spark is good enough to cover the lower section, and the upcoming Bolt will fill that odd segment. The new Cruze would work great with a Hatch...so I see the Sonic phasing out here, but soldering on in China (getting worse updates) and places like Thailand where it's more the norm in car size...

But in my heart of hearts I'd love to see Gen II with all the nifty wish list items we posted about...

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wbjones

wbjones

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14SonicLTZ said:
About Chevrolet laying off over 500 people from a Chevy Sonic plant due to the excess inventory that they have on site? The Sonic has had a decent incline in sales over the last year...

I am honestly thinking that the Sonic will be phased out eventually... That the Cruze hatch will take its place... Chevrolet did not have one at Sema...

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if they would make a Cruze Eco6 hatch, my '14 hatch would be gone, even if I couldn't get the Cool Blue that I have now (to me it's Carolina Blue :D)
 
Thesd45

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ChrisRS said:
I think most people are very short term when it comes to mileage. Gas is down to 2 bucks and nobody is buying sonic and volts. They will when gas goes back up to 4 bucks. I
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Exactly... When I bought my Sonic in June 87 Octane was around $3 a gallon here. And everyone was complaining about filling their gas tanks. Now gas is under $2 and 3 of my coworkers bought SUVs or full size trucks this week due to the dealers Black Friday sales and that they can now afford to fill the gas tanks. No long term thinking.

I told them that next summer when gas goes back up that I will just laugh at them when they start complaining about it.:D
 
The Champ

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14SonicLTZ said:
About Chevrolet laying off over 500 people from a Chevy Sonic plant due to the excess inventory that they have on site? The Sonic has had a decent incline in sales over the last year...
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Where did you get your information that sales have increased over the last year?

Because Chevy sold about 83,000 Sonics from 1/1/14 - 10/31/14 last year and sales for 2015 are only 53,000.

August 2014 was the highest ever month for Sonic sales with 12,799 and this past August only 4677 were sold.

Facts are here:

Chevrolet Sonic Sales Figures - GOOD CAR BAD CAR

Car sales in general are down this year, while truck and SUV sales are up.

GM cars sales are down 14% while truck and SUV sales are up 17%.

Link to US auto sales through 10/31/15:

Auto Sales - Markets Data Center - WSJ.com

So the layoff of 500 workers due to overstock is just common sense.
 
JustSonic

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Well, as long as either the Sonic or Spark are retained by Chevy, that's atleast one of our cars (wife owns a 2014 Spark).
 
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14SonicLTZ

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It would be common sense to lay that amount of workers off, but with no real support for the car from GM I start to wonder about the car being phased out as a real possibility...

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The Champ

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14SonicLTZ said:
It would be common sense to lay that amount of workers off, but with no real support for the car from GM I start to wonder about the car being phased out as a real possibility...
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The only "small" car that gets any significant amout of advertising support is the Fiat 500.

And that doesn't sell even with all the ads. YTD for the 500 is only 22,615 - about 40% of the number of Sonics sold.

I'm not claiming that the Sonic will stay in production forever, but fretting over the fact that it isn't being advertised is a waste of time.

Most intelligent manufacturer's will spend money to promote vehicles that they make money on. That's why you see the ads for the trucks, SUV's and the Camaro.

Fiat is not an intelligent manufacturer. Can you imagine how much they spend on advertising per Fiat 500 sold???
 
Jaysonic

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https://transportevolved.com/2014/1...vrolet-electric-car-successor-chevy-spark-ev/
This is a somewhat interesting article. (Its from October 2014 so not entirely sure of its accuracy) It says how the next generation Sonic, 2017 model, will be built on the all new GM platform known as the "Gamma G2SC platform." Also speaks about a possible electric version of the Sonic. But I guess the question would be whether or not they continue it here in the US. Or, since this article was written, sales of the Sonic have been down so things might have changed since then. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
The Champ

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For those concerned that GM will be dumping the Sonic...

Chevrolet Sonic: A new Sonic is expected to come in 2018. A 2016 model year facelift holds us over while we wait.

Read more: Most Chevrolets To Be Revamped Before 2020 | GM Authority
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For the foreseeable future, there is a need for a vehicle with the size, price and features of the Sonic.

This board members here show it's broad based appeal. I'm nearly 62, many owners here are in their 20's and we have every age in between represented and some that are older than I am.

GM/Chevy aren't dumping something that still sells an average of over 5,000 units per month on a 5 year old design in a year where car sales (vs truck and SUV) are down 14%.
 
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14SonicLTZ

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I have read that exact information in several reports this last year... But why the delay in development? It is only one year newer than the Cruze here in the United States. I wonder if it is to figure out what to do with the model. Many of the other models that share basically the same drivetrain are getting the updated 1.4l turbo...
I am curious if the new Cruze hatch will steal to much sales from the Sonic... Has anyone found the sales between the Sonic sedan and the Cruze?


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Swordsmith

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I don't see the point of having spark and sonic and cruze, once the Cruze adds a hatchback. The Cruze already gets the same or better mpg than the Sonic. The Spark is already massively cheaper and smaller. Getting rid of something makes sense.

I would prefer to see them get rid of the Spark (which seems lame to me, sorry, Spark owners), the Sonic Sedan (since you might as well have the Cruze), and cancel the Cruze HB (since folks who want a HB would probably prefer the lighter Sonic with the same engine)... but I will understand if that's not the way they go.

The Cruze is a much better seller than the Sonic.

I say all this despite the fact that I love the Sonic and would hate to see it go... hate it so much I'd probably abandon Chevy and get a Mazda or something.
 
wbjones

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14SonicLTZ said:
I have read that exact information in several reports this last year... But why the delay in development? It is only one year newer than the Cruze here in the United States. I wonder if it is to figure out what to do with the model. Many of the other models that share basically the same drivetrain are getting the updated 1.4l turbo...
I am curious if the new Cruze hatch will steal to much sales from the Sonic... Has anyone found the sales between the Sonic sedan and the Cruze?


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it will get me IF it has the Eco6 option (6MT)
 
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