Factory Screw Ups

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0h12Sonic

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Please post what car you have and what kind of screw ups you've found the factory has made.

I already saw someone had a trunk out of alignment.

I recently noticed something wrong with my driver seat. The long plastic clip that is sewn onto the fabric and clips onto the metal bracket on the front of the seat had popped out. I re-clipped it in and it fell out of the metal bracket again not a day later. I took a look under the seat to see what could possibly let this continue to happen, and then I saw the culprit. It was the metal bracket that the plastic clips on is welded to the seat; One side of it wasn't welded at all! There was a weld bead on the bracket, but not on joint, so the machine they were using to weld this part of the seat was way out of calibration when they did my seat. Kinda pissed something like this would miss QA inspections, i mean ITS A FREGGN WELD!! With the weld missing at that joint, the bottom part of the seat moves up and down about 1/2" as I depress the clutch. This movement allows the plastic clip to pop off.

Ill be taking it back to the dealer soon, and Im going to bet they will give me a whole new seat. I just hate the fact that they have to take it all apart since its a new car. It also makes me question other welds in the vehicle...
 
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Fit4Sonic

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0h12Sonic said:
... I took a look under the seat...
It was the metal bracket that the plastic clips on is welded to the seat; One side of it wasn't welded at all! There was a weld bead on the bracket, but not on joint, so the machine they were using to weld this part of the seat was way out of calibration when they did my seat. Kinda pissed something like this would miss QA inspections, i mean ITS A FREGGN WELD!!...
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Welcome to Union "labor," or the lack thereof! ("I only answer to, worship, and bend over for my Union Masters... they can screw me anytime they wish!")

This is becoming typical of what happens to formerly great companies when either government or unions -- and in GM's case, both -- slither their parasitic way into a company and slowly choke the life out of it.

I was talking to a group of guys who worked for a company who hired both union and non-union labor (non-union labor = the intelligent worker).

It was a critical situation, and the non-union workers were already anxious to get the job done, and were working. The union parasites (workers) were standing around, drinking coffee, yapping about how much they hated their jobs and bosses. I ask a group of them why they weren't working like their non-union counterparts.

This "brilliant", whining, school girl-ish, would-be "man" said, "Screw this company. I work for the union, I don't work for this company... I could care less what this company thinks and even less about starting my job early. I do what, and only what my union tells me I have to do... nothing else! I'm on union time, son!"

I looked at him for the whiner he is, and walked away, wanting badly to tell him what a terrible existence it must be living in his miserable skin, and how most people would love to be able to earn his $35.00+ per hour, [and double overtime] doing what he -- apparently tries so hard not to do -- for a living. What an absolute loser!

Again, welcome to union [non] labor.

I've stated in another thread I was hesitant about ordering a Sonic LTZ because of the lack of color choices (I wanted the blue that was supposed to be available). The more I hear and read about, not only the Sonic's manufacturing, but union and government's grip on GM, the less I want to order a Sonic, or any GM product.

Such a terrible tragedy and shame. GM's design team are world-class as far as I'm concerned. If GM continues to bend over for union thugs, I'm afraid it will only get worse for them.

If you play ball with the devil, sooner or later he will take you out of the game and place you into a burning dugout of hell! :D
 
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Gimpster

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Not to get off on a tangent... but that seat might've been built by a non-union subcontractor.

Just Sayin'.
 
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Fit4Sonic

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Gimpster said:
Not to get off on a tangent... but that seat might've been built by a non-union subcontractor.

Just Sayin'.
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Nah, man... I'm the one on the tangent... my apologies.

I think unions have gone from actually helping workers (only when needed), to greedy, agenda-driven, make-things-up-if-there-is-nothing-wrong, thugs. And I would hate to see yet another formerly great company run into the ground by those who create nothing, yet expect compensation from those who create everything!

It is my understanding -- and someone can correct me if I'm wrong -- GM uses no, or almost no non-union labor.

Yes, the seats could have been produced by non-union labor. But I'll guarantee inspectors at the plant responsible for quality control and safety-- in this instance making sure welds are sound and reliable -- are union.

Anyway, sorry for the original rant! :eek:
 
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Fit4Sonic

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Gimpster... a question

By the way, Gimpster, can you post some close-up pics of your Victory Red Sonic? I'm thinking of ordering that color and I'd like to see some fairly close and larger pics of that color in both sunlight and shade... all the way around the car.

Does Victory Red have a clear coat? Or is it just your standard laquer type of red... as in a traditional red? If you don't know, it should say somewhere on the original window sticker. Or maybe GM still gives a little sheet on the proper care of your paint?

Hey, thanks man! :)
 
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RockTheShazbot

RockTheShazbot

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It has a clear coat on it. The cobalt red was victory red and my buddy has one. It looks red in light or dark where as my celica (absolute red was the official name) looked more like a dark orange in the dark.
 
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ronarn

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GM quality issues

Fit4Sonic said:
Welcome to Union "labor," or the lack thereof! ("I only answer to, worship, and bend over for my Union Masters... they can screw me anytime they wish!")

This is becoming typical of what happens to formerly great companies when either government or unions -- and in GM's case, both -- slither their parasitic way into a company and slowly choke the life out of it.

I was talking to a group of guys who worked for a company who hired both union and non-union labor (non-union labor = the intelligent worker).

It was a critical situation, and the non-union workers were already anxious to get the job done, and were working. The union parasites (workers) were standing around, drinking coffee, yapping about how much they hated their jobs and bosses. I ask a group of them why they weren't working like their non-union counterparts.

This "brilliant", whining, school girl-ish, would-be "man" said, "Screw this company. I work for the union, I don't work for this company... I could care less what this company thinks and even less about starting my job early. I do what, and only what my union tells me I have to do... nothing else! I'm on union time, son!"

I looked at him for the whiner he is, and walked away, wanting badly to tell him what a terrible existence it must be living in his miserable skin, and how most people would love to be able to earn his $35.00+ per hour, [and double overtime] doing what he -- apparently tries so hard not to do -- for a living. What an absolute loser!

Again, welcome to union [non] labor.

I've stated in another thread I was hesitant about ordering a Sonic LTZ because of the lack of color choices (I wanted the blue that was supposed to be available). The more I hear and read about, not only the Sonic's manufacturing, but union and government's grip on GM, the less I want to order a Sonic, or any GM product.

Such a terrible tragedy and shame. GM's design team are world-class as far as I'm concerned. If GM continues to bend over for union thugs, I'm afraid it will only get worse for them.

If you play ball with the devil, sooner or later he will take you out of the game and place you into a burning dugout of hell! :D
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THIS IS WHY SONIC WILL FAIL....IT'S JUNK....as are most things that are union made....i know because i delt with union members for 40 yrs.
 
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Sonic

Moderator
Keep it on topic and take the union bashing to a thread dedicated to that subject or this thread will be locked down. I'm not saying you can't hate on the Unions, that's your right. But this thread isn't the place for it. Thanks.
 
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shaggy

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speedog said:
One post and off it goes.
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lol forum life is the same, EVERYWHERE i see.

ok the only thing i have found wrong with my sonic. some dirt in the paint on the pass. rear door very small dent under fuel door.
and the exposed rivet heads in the trunk on the mat. i think i may put some pc7 epoxy over them. they like to catch whatever is back their and it has scratched me twice. just something i think i want to do.
 
BoG233

BoG233

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I don't know if this what you mean but the tire SENSORS will not register with the car (but will work with on star ) that the only thing I have found not up to par .
 
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redbeast24740

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winshield black plastic foam is showing on the bottom of the winshield (interior of the car) not sure if its like this on all of them but it gets to me....
 
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