The Traction Control/Stability Control Nanny thread

[SciroccoTDI]

I have noticed that on my especially fun corners that even with the "nanny" completely disabled, it will still kick in (just at a much reduced factor, and at the extreme levels of shennanigans - SC light flashes, minor power reduction).

Has anyone else noticed the same?

I know there are plenty of bitch threads about the Sonic nanny, but - I think we have it better than most, regardless it does not seem like it is completely disabled when you use the factory button to shut it off.

Check out what Golf R drivers get to live with if they even think of taking it to the track -

Volkswagen Golf R vs Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR! - Head 2 Head Episode 5 - YouTube

At least Chevy didn't hose us that bad.

-E

 

[sx sonic]

I consider the nannies way overly aggresive on this car. And have noticed what your talking about many times.

I pulled the abs fuse, problem solved only lost ABS which I'm fine with till snowfall.

I still can't logically comprehend why we can't fully disable the system, seems absurd to me its only a fair powered fwd car.

 

[SciroccoTDI]

I consider the nannies way overly aggresive on this car. And have noticed what your talking about many times.

I pulled the abs fuse, problem solved only lost ABS which I'm fine with till snowfall.

I still can't logically comprehend why we can't fully disable the system, seems absurd to me its only a fair powered fwd car.

I concur that the stock SC/TC is extremely too aggressive when its on, but I don't want to lose the ABS. While I know that a vehicle can stop shorter on ice using locked brakes, its just not worth the down sides of dry/wet/packed snowy conditions of shorter stopping distances for me to disable it completely.

Ref - http://www.smedayton.org/downloads/Reid Article, ABS Brakes.pdf

Regardless, my main point of this thread was, have others seen that SC/TC will still kick in (with massively reduced effect) when it has been disabled via the factory button?

Regards,

-E

 

[Preloader]

I put the fuse back in once after months of no fuse, just to remind me what it was like. Even on button disable mode, I felt it kick in within a few block from the house and the fuse came back out.

Also, when I took mine to the dealer to get the shifter cables adjusted, I forgot to put the fuse back in. The service tech asked me if I was aware that my ABS,SC,TC wasn't functioning. I told him I took the fuse out because I hate it, and he didn't seem to find fault with that motive. No sirens went off. No lights flashed and they didn't stamp a big denied on my warranty.

 

[Eric Smit]

I don't have any issues with it cutting when I fully disable it. The video of me at the track where I spin through first and second was with it disabled, with my fuse intact.


-Eric Smit

 

[Swordsmith]

I'm still waiting for the DIY post showing how to add a disable switch to the ABS fuse line.
But I can't say that I notice TC/SC kicking in when disabled. My main reason for wanting a better switch would be to not have to wait 10 seconds for full disable. But if (as far as I know we don't have an answer on this yet either) the ABS switch doesn't allow me to turn the system back on while running, I probably won't put it in. I like the nannies being there except when I'm really really paying attention.

 

[$ub$onic]

I had one on my ranger... dident really look at what the fuze controlled other then abs .... put my truck in limp mode lol

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[ThatTmoGuy]

I replaced my ABS fuse while the car was running and it came right back on, I would assume the switch would do the same thing.

 

[Opticon]

have others seen that SC/TC will still kick in (with massively reduced effect) when it has been disabled via the factory button?

Yes.

Man-shift into second and the stabilitrack light flashes even with the system "fully disabled".

 

[Preloader]

I'm still waiting for the DIY post showing how to add a disable switch to the ABS fuse line.
But I can't say that I notice TC/SC kicking in when disabled. My main reason for wanting a better switch would be to not have to wait 10 seconds for full disable. But if (as far as I know we don't have an answer on this yet either) the ABS switch doesn't allow me to turn the system back on while running, I probably won't put it in. I like the nannies being there except when I'm really really paying attention.

I posted an elementary drawing of the wiring schematic in the ABS Fuse thread.

 

[ThatTmoGuy]

In theory couldn't you just pop a fuse and wire a switch to each side so that when the switch is on the current moves through the fuse, wire a fuse in the line and you could simply "pull the fuse" by flipping the switch.

 

[Opticon]

In conventional electrical theory... yes.

Now how much do you know about CAN bus?

 

[ThatTmoGuy]

Less than nothing.

 

[SonicBoy24]

I consider the nannies way overly aggresive on this car. And have noticed what your talking about many times.

I pulled the abs fuse, problem solved only lost ABS which I'm fine with till snowfall.

I still can't logically comprehend why we can't fully disable the system, seems absurd to me its only a fair powered fwd car.

THIS, is gold.

 

[Preloader]

In theory couldn't you just pop a fuse and wire a switch to each side so that when the switch is on the current moves through the fuse, wire a fuse in the line and you could simply "pull the fuse" by flipping the switch.

If you want to have a 30amp rated SPST switch mounted in your cab I suppose you could. Then in your best Paul Walker voice, you could say. "I need more NOS," every time you throw the switch.

The relay approach keeps the stock ABS 30amp circuit virtually intact, and allows you to control the circuit with a smaller switch with a much lower current, not to mention a smaller, single wire through your firewall.

It's the politically correct way to modify your car's electronics.

 

[SciroccoTDI]

Yes.

Man-shift into second and the stabilitrack light flashes even with the system "fully disabled".

Especially pronounced if doing a little throttle induced understeer I have noticed (have a very fun corner on my work commute, 90 degree off camber sweeper from a single lane 30 mph road to a 3 lane road 55 mph road...I "experiment" on it every morning )

 

[chrisennis7]

I tried searching but couldn't find it using my phone. Their are two abs fuses is that correct? Where are they located? I would like to try pulling mine, I have a steep sandy incline for a driveway and this driveway confuses the heck out of my car

 

[sx sonic]

They are located in the engine bay fuse block by the battery. I can't recall where exactly they are located but the fuse box lid has a diagram listing location and function of the fuses.

I only pulled the mini fuse I think it was 20 or 30 amps

 

[chrisennis7]

Ok thanks, gonna go look for it right now

 

[ThatTmoGuy]

Top left fuse only one is needed