Bad News Racing, Trifecta or WOT-Tuning

[rodslinger]

Or are they one in the same?

Maybe someone can shed some clarification on these three. Everything to me indicates that these are essentially the same vendor. And I'm not claiming shenanigans here. Maybe it would be a lot easier if they merged under a single thread or helped clarify their differences and why they need three separate vendor threads.

For instance:

- Support for Trifecta refers to Jerry at BNR
- BNR Ticket logs are on WOT-Tuning.com website that has the Trifecta Logo at the top corner but a BNR logo on the actual message.
- I bought my tune from BRN but send logs to Trifecta and get feedback from the WOT-Tuning website

Confusing.....

 

[$ub$onic]

I moved the thread to the general section.

 

[Blue Moon Sonic]

Bad News racing is a vendor of trifecta that sells the tune and EZ flash cable. You can if you wanted go right to trifecta's site which should be WOT tuning and order tuning that way.

 

[rodslinger]

Bad News racing is a vendor of trifecta that sells the tune and EZ flash cable. You can if you wanted go right to trifecta's site which should be WOT tuning and order tuning that way.

That clarifies it some.

Then why would Trifecta and WOT-Tuning maintain different sites if they are the same. My open ticket with BNR is on a WOT-Tuning.com support page.

(edit) - Was digging and the BNR support isn't on the WOT-Tuning site. My original message to BNR support told me to send logs to WOT. There is an embedded BNR logo on my WOT-Tuning support ticket.

 

[laborsmith]

Trifecta marketing began using numerous local based distributors as what we know know as the red cable had yet to be developed. The red cable and its black cable predecessor allowed Trifecta to include the cable in a cost effective manner and that allowed Trifecta to market directly to end users. BNR is one of the original retailers.

Trifecta expanded to the point it could not keep up with demand and subcontracted what it did to WOT-Tuning. So you are correct: each offers the same thing.

Trifecta still has a FB page but my memory is it redirects orders and questions to WOT-Tuning. BNR and DDM (a SOF vendor) are kind of what survived from the dozens that began Trifecta retail selling.

The costs of using the original clear cable was significant and if that Tactronix, clear cable manufacturer had stayed in Seattle there is a good chance Trifecta would not have been prompted to develop a substitute, but it did not and as a consequence we have the red cable.

Laborsmith

I did leave out some early Trifecta vending history. -L-

 

[BNRacing]

BNR is a reseller of Trifecta products, as well as many other brands including ZZP, DDM, Magnaflow, just about anything for the Sonic can be found on our site. The goal of BNR is to have everything you'd want for your Sonic under a single store, and at the same time develop our own products to fill in the gaps that no one else is (i.e. our 1.8L Headers). We are in no way associated with Trifecta and only follow their pricing guidelines and policies.

WOT is Trifecta's direct reseller and handles data logs and update requests, even from resellers such as DDM or BNR. We simply resell their tuning solution just like any other product.

The benefit of buying it and other products from BNR is that you get reward points that can be used towards your next purchase, and we are usually the cheapest place around to get the parts you are looking for. For example, WOT used to sell Trifecta for $350 or $400, while BNR was $315. They sold the red cable for $200, while we sold it for $150. Trifecta recently changed their policy so that all resellers must sell at the same, new pricing tiers, but you still get points on it that can be used on parts you'd want to buy later.

 

[rodslinger]

BNR is a reseller of Trifecta products, as well as many other brands including ZZP, DDM, Magnaflow, etc.... We are in no way associated with Trifecta and only follow their pricing guidelines and policies.

WOT is Trifecta's direct reseller and handles data logs and update requests, even from resellers such as DDM or BNR. We simply resell their tuning solution just like any other product..

Thanks for that info. That helps explain it better. Essentially Trifecta is the main entity. WOT handles the logs and tuning for them and acts as a dealer liason for the other resellers needs.

It just got a little muddy when I sent you (BNR) a datalog and was told to send it to WOT instead. And their website has Trifecta brading on it too.... Was making me wonder who I was supposed to be dealing with.

 

[WOT-Tuning]

Thanks for that info. That helps explain it better. Essentially Trifecta is the main entity. WOT handles the logs and tuning for them and acts as a dealer liason for the other resellers needs.

It just got a little muddy when I sent you (BNR) a datalog and was told to send it to WOT instead. And their website has Trifecta brading on it too.... Was making me wonder who I was supposed to be dealing with.

As stated earlier, WOT-Tuning is also the direct retailer for all TRIFECTA products. Many of which are only available through us.

When purchasing directly through WOT-Tuning you also have the added benefit, as already stated by others, of dealing directly with the persons that will be reviewing your diagnostic logs, processing any updates, and answering any questions you have without having to go through a vendor or 3rd party.

The tradeoff is you pay a slightly elevated price for the direct-to-you support. Also, it is worthy mentioning that all packages for the Sonic now include the EZ Flash (Red) cable in the price of the package. No additional order or pricing for the cable

-Michael