New Trifecta tune

[Stew]

The Sonic is a little tricky to launch good consistently. When I'm trying to get my fastest launch I'll leave around 4000 rpms and keep my right foot to the floor while using the clutch to keep rpms where they actually do something but without spinning the tires.

First gear goes by pretty quick and I don't take off like that often so it's hard to get real good at it.

 

[aslap]

That's about it

Stew,

That's about how I did it when stock. I'd start around 3000 and then modulate everything with the clutch and gas.

But now it seems kind of digital - bog it or lite it up. Might get a chance in the next week to see if the tune switching actually works or was just my imagination.

Tony

 

[wbjones]

after I swapped out the stock garbage transmission mount - no more wheel hop and shifting was MUCH improved. it eliminates that awful bouncing forward and backwards after shifting! it will smoothly spin the tires up with the ttr mount. I cant ever see a reason to put the stock one back on.

btw, it only took about 10-15 minutes to install it, including finding the tools.

which mounts did you use ?

 

[Trevinator]

I bought a used ttr mount from the classifieds section here. I want to get the engine mount too when I can find a deal on one.

 

[2014 Blue RS]

Now that, is interesting!

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[aslap]

More numbers

As I said earlier, my best stock 0-60 time was 7.72 seconds with a 0 to 30 time of 2.4 seconds.We had some dry, warmer weather and I managed a good, hard launch. Unfortunately, I must have left off the gas before I hit 60 because that number never came up on the UG. This has happened to me a couple of times. I don't think it's the gauge. My 0-30 time was 1.84 seconds. If I would have kept in it, I'm sure it would have been at least a 7 second flat if not a trace below that.

I keep trying.

Tony

 

[Kuntryboy865]

Im interested in seeing how the BNR tune will do against my trifecta tune. Apparently it makes the car faster than the trifecta tune, we shall see.

 

[aslap]

KB,

Yes - post those numbers. I'd also like to see that. I'm more than happy with the Trifecta tune. I just switch it in and out but mostly keep things on the stock tune. But it certainly feels like a much different car with the tune engaged.

I was real close to going with the BNR tune but the Trifecta's cruise control on/off mode hooked me.

Tony

 

[MORTIS]

KB,

Yes - post those numbers. I'd also like to see that. I'm more than happy with the Trifecta tune. I just switch it in and out but mostly keep things on the stock tune. But it certainly feels like a much different car with the tune engaged.

I was real close to going with the BNR tune but the Trifecta's cruise control on/off mode hooked me.

Tony

Having the cruise control as a quick switch between stock and tuned is an attractive feature, but does that mean you no longer have the cruise control function?

 

[Chrish051873]

Having the cruise control as a quick switch between stock and tuned is an attractive feature, but does that mean you no longer have the cruise control function?

cruise control is still optional.

 

[aslap]

Cruise still works

Mort,

Cruise control works just like it always did. The switch from stock to hot is also very fast. I can be in second at some steady RPM, for example, on the stock tune and disconnect the cruise and the pick up in power is immediate.

You don't have to actually "set" the cruise to get the stock tune (green cruise light on the dash), you just have to have it selected (white cruise light on the dash).

Tony

 

[WOT-Tuning]

Mort,

Cruise control works just like it always did. The switch from stock to hot is also very fast. I can be in second at some steady RPM, for example, on the stock tune and disconnect the cruise and the pick up in power is immediate.

You don't have to actually "set" the cruise to get the stock tune (green cruise light on the dash), you just have to have it selected (white cruise light on the dash).

Tony

^^^ Yup, this!

 

[Cpruett]

I'm having the hardest time launching my car as well. Noooooo onneee wants to do a roll everyone wants to do a dig. So the lower trans mount is now on the wish list after reading this. But, what else can help? Right now, I am Tune-less. I'm stock other than running 93 Octane, DDM works intake, and ZZP cat back w/res delete & their muffler. Any suggestions on better launches ?

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[aslap]

It is a bugger

CP,

All I can say is practice. That 1.84 second to 30 was by far the best I've ever done and I could tell it was a monster the instant the car started rolling. I just caught everything right - all except the giant dummy part about lifting before I got to 60 so I missed the entire reason I launched the car in the first place.

You certainly can't just dump the clutch at any elevated RPM. When I did that stock, it was wheel hop all over the place. With the tune it was wheel HOP and spin (sounds like a 60's dance record!).

Best for me is to be on the brake and bringing the RMP up to around 3200. I then sort of roll off the clutch and keep the revs up so it doesn't bog. Once I get the clutch out, it's foot to the floor and go!

A buddy at work suggested that I use the Trifecta tune switch feature to try and get a better launch. I never did a full run like this but it was fairly easy to have the cruise control selected; get it going on the stock tune; and right before the shift to second, drop the cruise and bring on the hot tune. Like I said, I need a lot more practice on something like this but this may, in the end, be a more consistent way to launch the car.

FYI - mine is a 2015, 6 MT, sedan with no mods other than the tune.

Tony

 

[Swordsmith]

The CC based switch gives you stock tune when CC is off, and hot tune when CC is on. You don't have to actually use CC... but if you want to use CC, you're going to have to be running the hot tune at the time. Someone requested that they do it the other way around on the theory that if they wanted a hot car they wouldn't be using CC, and that if stock was more fuel efficient it would make sense to run that when using CC. But no joy, at least back then.

Luckily, as far as anyone ever reported, the stock tune was no more fuel efficient than the hot tune, so there was really no reason to ever run it, or to care which of the two you were using when using CC. But that also made it no more than a fun feature to let you easily see what difference the tune made or to show it off to a friend (it was, admittedly, great for those instances)

 

[aslap]

Sword,

I think you have it backwards. Maybe the older Trifecta worked like that but mine is working as I described above. Selecting cruise brings on the stock tune. Turning off the cruise makes it not. This is the logical way to have things set up since if you really want the cruise working you would 't be concerned with the hot tune. I noticed a huge difference in around the town MPG from stock to hot but that was pronably because I had my foot in it all the time!

Tony

 

[MORTIS]

Swordsmith & Tony: thanks for taking the time to explain all that, and I'm glad to hear that cc can still be used.

Tony: I was about to post a comment saying the description of function from you two guys seems to contradict, but your last post explains why.
So let me get this straight: with your version of Trifecta, if no cc is selected (no light), the hot tune is active. If the cc is selected (white light), the stock tune is active. If the cc is engaged (green light), you have cruise control on stock tune. Is all that correct?

 

[aslap]

Yes, indeedy!!

Mort,

Yes, that is exactly how it works on mine. I'd be willing to bet that an older version worked just as Sword said. If you look at the top post on this page, WOT confirms the operation as I stated.

White cruise light = stock tune

Green cruise light = stock tune

No cruise lite = Yoweeeeyyy!!!

Tony

 

[aslap]

One other thing.....

Mort,

I don't know from nothin' about the other tunes and what effect the intakes and exhausts will do for the car. I just wanted a bit more pop in the vehicle. I drove a 2006 Aveo (5 speed manual) into the ground before I got the Sonic and I always thought that if the Aveo had had just a bit more than the 93 (I think) HP it came with that it would have been a ball to drive. So the Sonic was that car but you always think what it would be like with even a bit more power.

I was skeptical about just what the tune would actually do to the car but the price and the cruise thing led me to the Trifecta. I was (and still am) astounded by the difference in the car when the hot tune is engaged. Night and day difference. My car was good for 7.8 second 0-60 times and I'm sure that it's going to do at lease 7 flat once I get the launch down. Maybe even better than that.

Tony

 

[MORTIS]

Tony: the only mod I may eventually get is a tune, but I remain torn as to which one to get. Aside from my concern for the additional long-term stress on certain components, the pros and cons of each type make it difficult to decide. After reading of several complaints of the on/off switch-type or aggressive throttle response from users of Trifecta, I was leaning toward the BNR Diablosport tunes which apparently have an ideally progressive throttle response right to the redline, or near enough.

I like the fact that you can quickly switch in or out the tune with Trifecta and the its transparency mode, but I read of more problems and behaviour issues with it than I do from owners of other tunes. Obviously you're very happy with it so perhaps it's been improved since earlier versions.
I'll continue following your thread and any other reviews on the forum.