Deaddog Saloon

[Preloader]

The black areas on the outside are a mirror indication of where the rod has travelled inside. It took me a bit to get over the fact that brazing, even when done correctly doesn't look pretty. The best you can hope for is to make it look even, with minimal lumping.

Also, it is quite different than solder. Solder travels through capillary action with the assistance of flux. Braze rod travels through heat. So technically once it's hot and you push a decent amount of rod in, you can take the rod away and just continue to work the amount you've fed by pushing it around with the heat. If you don't get the desired coverage, shove a couple more inches of rod in and work it around with the heat some more.

It's been a while since I've done 1", but I think 1 rod per 2 to 3 joints is about right. Also, 15% silver ain't cheap, so when a rod gets down to the last couple inches, you can hold it against a new rod and fuse the ends with a little heat. Then you can bend it 180deg to get your old stub sticking off the end of the new rod. This way you don't end up with a bucket full of wasted (costly) stubs in the end.

 

[Insanika]

Random question for you guys:

If you got into your early 00s vehicle, and saw that your wife had replaced your crappy factory head unit with a nice touchscreen one, would you be mad? What would you NOT want on it and what would you want on it? What brand would you NOT want??

I just tore apart the dash in hubby's ranger.. Uh. Not fun.

 

[Preloader]

Being that it was the factory HU, I would not be mad. Brand wise, there aren't any that stand out as bad. Well maybe Sony Xplod, so bright and flashy. Wouldn't want my dash to look vajazzled. (If you don't know, google it)

Sounds like someone is going to score some awesome wife points.

 

[Insanika]

Being that it was the factory HU, I would not be mad. Brand wise, there aren't any that stand out as bad. Well maybe Sony Xplod, so bright and flashy. Wouldn't want my dash to look vajazzled. (If you don't know, google it)

Sounds like someone is going to score some awesome wife points.

That + 4 new Mickey Thompsons .

Yeah, Ima damn good wife.

I'm looking for something Bluetooth, xm ready and touchscreen. He is jelly of my MyLink so I'm trying to copy that.

 

[Preloader]

The jelly will run out only when he also has his own turbo.

 

[ChrisJ]

Hmm I donno.

I know I'm retarded sometimes but I'd be pissed if you had some store touch my car to install the HU. I don't let other people touch ma ****.

 

[ChrisJ]

The black areas on the outside are a mirror indication of where the rod has travelled inside. It took me a bit to get over the fact that brazing, even when done correctly doesn't look pretty. The best you can hope for is to make it look even, with minimal lumping.

Also, it is quite different than solder. Solder travels through capillary action with the assistance of flux. Braze rod travels through heat. So technically once it's hot and you push a decent amount of rod in, you can take the rod away and just continue to work the amount you've fed by pushing it around with the heat. If you don't get the desired coverage, shove a couple more inches of rod in and work it around with the heat some more.

It's been a while since I've done 1", but I think 1 rod per 2 to 3 joints is about right. Also, 15% silver ain't cheap, so when a rod gets down to the last couple inches, you can hold it against a new rod and fuse the ends with a little heat. Then you can bend it 180deg to get your old stub sticking off the end of the new rod. This way you don't end up with a bucket full of wasted (costly) stubs in the end.

So, with soft solder burning the flux was always a concern so you never wanted to get it too hot. Once you did, you were screwed because the solder wouldn't flow.

Can you get a joint too hot while brazing? I'm going to be brazing a tiny capillary tube into a strainer which has a slightly larger hole. I forget the OD diameter of the capillary tube but the ID is 0.028". Its tiny.

 

[SouthFLSonic]

Random question for you guys:

If you got into your early 00s vehicle, and saw that your wife had replaced your crappy factory head unit with a nice touchscreen one, would you be mad? What would you NOT want on it and what would you want on it? What brand would you NOT want??

I just tore apart the dash in hubby's ranger.. Uh. Not fun.

I have always been partial to Kenwoods and found them easy to use.

 

[Preloader]

So, with soft solder burning the flux was always a concern so you never wanted to get it too hot. Once you did, you were screwed because the solder wouldn't flow.

Can you get a joint too hot while brazing? I'm going to be brazing a tiny capillary tube into a strainer which has a slightly larger hole. I forget the OD diameter of the capillary tube but the ID is 0.028". Its tiny.

If you burn through the copper you've gone too hot, otherwise no.

Also, I know you mentioned brazing copper to stainless. I know when we braze copper to brass/bronze we have to use a special brazing flux. Not sure if something similar is needed to join cu and ss. Might want to confirm.

 

[mitdr774]

I was "scolded" for taking the time to make my conduits come close to matching the air line. Apparently it is preferred that we just puke **** in and not try to make it look like a professional did it.

 

[ChrisJ]

If you burn through the copper you've gone too hot, otherwise no.

Also, I know you mentioned brazing copper to stainless. I know when we braze copper to brass/bronze we have to use a special brazing flux. Not sure if something similar is needed to join cu and ss. Might want to confirm.

Wow good memory!
I'm avoiding the copper to stainless as much as possible. That is only if I tamper with the evaporator which is stainless. As long as I don't **** those joints up, I won't be messing with them. My plans are to cut the 1/2"OD suction line and the 1/4" liquid line to remove the evap. Then later modify the liquid line with a strainer and a small capillary tube after removing the float valve. Then, the 1/2" suction line will just get a coupler.

From what I've been told, for copper to stainless I'd need 45% silver and a flux as you said.

 

[Insanika]

Deaddog saloon

Hmm I donno.

I know I'm retarded sometimes but I'd be pissed if you had some store touch my car to install the HU. I don't let other people touch ma ****.

Not "some store". Me! This thing needs replaced anyway.

Also, Preloader, we are looking at the supercharger kits they make for the 4.0

 

[ChrisJ]

Not "some store". Me! This thing needs replaced anyway.

Also, Preloader, we are looking at the supercharger kits they make for the 4.0

If my wife could install a HU, then well, that would be a great present.

 

[Insanika]

Deaddog saloon

If my wife could install a HU, then well, that would be a great present.

That's one thing I have done plenty of. I did my car, my truck, and a couple friends' in high school. And one in my current s-dime, but it's been a while, which is why I asked about brands and doodads lol.

Putting the dash back together this morning with the old crap (painting project), and probably next week I'm going to need his truck to haul something.

It has to be a surprise or he will say he doesn't want/need it etc. because it costs a little bit of money. However the man works his ass off and rarely buys what he wants. We can afford it, he's going to get something nice.

 

[SouthFLSonic]

My fiance works in IT and can not even update her iPhone without help. So wishing for her to install a head unit let alone know how to take apart the dash would be worthy of an upgraded rock on her hand lol.

He will love what ever you put in there knowing that you did it for him to end his jelly of your Mylink system. You are now in the running for wife of the year!!!

 

[Insanika]

My fiance works in IT and can not even update her iPhone without help. So wishing for her to install a head unit let alone know how to take apart the dash would be worthy of an upgraded rock on her hand lol.

He will love what ever you put in there knowing that you did it for him to end his jelly of your Mylink system. You are now in the running for wife of the year!!!

Omg. That's funny!

Well, he spoils me. He DID upgrade my rock 2 years ago for our tenth anniversary, AND he upgraded my ride in Feb .

The one I'm looking at is this one:
http://m.bestbuy.com/m/e/product/detail.jsp?skuId=7501209&pid=1218848536910&pcatId=abcat0302012

Kenwood was the sh!t back in the day. Hope it's still the case.

 

[ChrisJ]

Just an FYI,
When I've installed HU's in the past if I can't get an adapter I solder all connections and use quality heat shrink on them.

If I ever saw crimp connectors that are not at least soldered in something I owned I'd throw a ****fit.

 

[Insanika]

Just an FYI,
When I've installed HU's in the past if I can't get an adapter I solder all connections and use quality heat shrink on them.

If I ever saw crimp connectors that are not at least soldered in something I owned I'd throw a ****fit.

We have a good friend who installs stereos as well, I've got him in reserve for this case if need be. I had install kits before. Actually, the availability of an install kit will make or break the deal possibly for a particulaR HU

 

[SouthFLSonic]

My 4Runner had a touch screen Navi Kenwood in it and I sunk that truck in a lake up to my seats and never had a single problem with that. User friendly and great features.

I also just checked some reviews online of the model you're looking at and it has great 5 star reviews across the board. The only few bad reviews I read were due to the fact of clarity on bluetooth calls but only on a few reviews. I'd say you got a good HU there pick it up and get that puppy installed.

 

[ChrisJ]

We have a good friend who installs stereos as well, I've got him in reserve for this case if need be. I had install kits before. Actually, the availability of an install kit will make or break the deal possibly for a particulaR HU

You should learn how to solder.
Not necessarily for this, but because it comes in handy so often. Never again will you need to have a crimp connector, or a plug.


An example of my soldering (in electronics anyway).

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAKU/g9zd8fdtf7I/w1120-h755-no/CRW_3384.jpg