Gun thread (pictures)

[mitdr774]

You are legally and morally responsible for EVERY shot you take. Do you want to be responsible for a bullet that may or may not ricochet? Did you know that sometimes bullets can bounce over backstops at a range? That is why there are heavy regulations on how they are built.

Having been at the range when this has happened (not every person that owns a gun can manage to actually hit the backstop...) it is not something I would ever want to be exposed to on the street. Yes bullet splatter hurts like hell and I dont like finding a deformed chunk of lead at my feet when it wasnt there a moment ago.

I do not and never have thought that a warning shot was a good, safe, or logical action to take in a situation that would necessitate the drawing of a firearm. If I need to draw my firearm it will either be used if teh threat continues, or be reholstered if the threat retreats. Warning shots are assault with a deadly weapon according to most states and I have no problem with that.

Also, having been to places where I was 100% responsible for where my bullet went once it left the muzzle I am always aware of what is behind my target or the game I am after.

 

[ahtoxa]

Some more clarity on this recent discussion about warning shots.

Sounds like the whole "warning shot" deal was a media thing, much as I suspected.

Link to the actual bill:
https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2014/0089/BillText/er/PDF

It discusses "threatened use of force", which addresses an apparent issue where people were prosecuted under 10-20-life to display of force (displaying handgun) in a self-defense situation (this is particularly important), and the bill is aimed at eliminating that idiocy.

The bill doesn't appear to talk about warning shots at all.

 

[SouthFLSonic]

Some more clarity on this recent discussion about warning shots.

Sounds like the whole "warning shot" deal was a media thing, much as I suspected.

Link to the actual bill:
https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2014/0089/BillText/er/PDF

It discusses "threatened use of force", which addresses an apparent issue where people were prosecuted under 10-20-life to display of force (displaying handgun) in a self-defense situation (this is particularly important), and the bill is aimed at eliminating that idiocy.

The bill doesn't appear to talk about warning shots at all.

Here is a little more that I found on the issue.

Florida State Senate | Gun laws | "Warning Shot" Bill

 

[SouthFLSonic]

Well I got my PF-9 back from cerakoting and decided to go white with it because it was something different.

Now I am very happy with quality of the cerakoting and how it was applied but I am unhappy with the fact that the slide is cream and not white. I am awaiting a response from the company to see what can be done for it.

Let me know what ya think and I can put more pics up also.

 

[krakenredbeard]

Well I got my PF-9 back from cerakoting and decided to go white with it because it was something different.

Now I am very happy with quality of the cerakoting and how it was applied but I am unhappy with the fact that the slide is cream and not white. I am awaiting a response from the company to see what can be done for it.

Let me know what ya think and I can put more pics up also.

It's different materials is probably why if I has to guess.


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[ahtoxa]

It's different, like you said. I agree that the slide looking creamy isn't great and it would be much better if it matched the rest of the gun.

 

[SouthFLSonic]

It's different materials is probably why if I has to guess.


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Of course it is, slide is metal and grip is composite but I have seen other weapons done in white and they did not end up cream no matter what the material was. If it woulda been an issue the company should have told me when I asked if it would come out like an arctic white and he assured me it would be white as a sheet of paper.

I hope that he can just strip it and maybe put down a base coat (if he didn't the first time) and then re-coat it and bake. If it is an as is thing I will be happy because I will not have the rust spots from Kel-Tec's cheap blueing job but I know that it can be done super white on metal slides.

 

[krakenredbeard]

[ QUOTE=SouthFLSonic;253496]Of course it is, slide is metal and grip is composite but I have seen other weapons done in white and they did not end up cream no matter what the material was. If it woulda been an issue the company should have told me when I asked if it would come out like an arctic white and he assured me it would be white as a sheet of paper.



I hope that he can just strip it and maybe put down a base coat (if he didn't the first time) and then re-coat it and bake. If it is an as is thing I will be happy because I will not have the rust spots from Kel-Tec's cheap blueing job but I know that it can be done super white on metal slides.[/QUOTE]


Id say they never stripped it then.



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[SouthFLSonic]

The company has 1,000 plus reviews for cerakoting and all 100% happy so I can't imagine they won't take care of it. I'm thinking he maybe just didn't do a base coat which you need to do with whites and lighter colors.

 

[ahtoxa]

Is the ceracote finish resistant to ingrained dirt? Is it a fairly coarse/porous surface or more polished?

On a white finish like that, I'd hate to have to use elbow grease to get the dark hand prints off the finish.

 

[SouthFLSonic]

Is the ceracote finish resistant to ingrained dirt? Is it a fairly coarse/porous surface or more polished?

On a white finish like that, I'd hate to have to use elbow grease to get the dark hand prints off the finish.

It is restraint to ingrained dirt and the slide is smooth finish and the grip has a little texture due to how it was before coating.

Nothing is supposed to stain or remove the stuff including brake cleaner hoppes and any cleaner short of hydrochloric acid. I haven't shot it yet to see how it cleans up but from what I read about it all you do is wipe it clean and no scrubbing.

Going to range this weekend and if not then next weekend for sure.

 

[SouthFLSonic]

 

[stever525]

Well I finally got my first handgun. I was originally going to go with a Kel Tek PF9, but I couldn't find it without the stainless slide. Every shop I talked to had had them on order for a while and I just didn't want to wait a couple months. Then I thought I would go with a .40, so I decided on a Taurus PT740. I went to my local shop and checked it out. It was a nice feeling gun, but then the salesman showed me the Ruger LC9. Like the PF9, it's a small gun perfect for concealed carry. It felt very nice and very light. I didn't try it out before I bought it- (they had one for rent at the range) so I'm glad I liked it. I'm getting more used to it's mile long trigger pull. After more than 200 rounds not a single issue has come up.

For now I have a Blackhawk nylon IWB holster, but I have an Alien Gear holster on order.

 

[ahtoxa]

Nice!

I was torn between the LC9 and the S&W Shield 9mm for my CC gun. Even though I ended up with the Shield, the LC9 is a great gun.

 

[SouthFLSonic]

Well I must say that The company that Cerakoted my Pf-9 is the shining example of customer service and that treating customers right brings in more customers via word of mouth. I have spoke to several friends about the quality of work they do and that alone got them interested but then I mention they stand behind their work and will make sure the client is happy even if it means refinishing an item for free and now 3 friends are sending in multiple firearms to get work done. :banana: :banana:

They said that they will refinish my gun for free to match the colors better and all I need to pay is shipping there @ $12. So to FedEx I go on my lunch to send her off for a fresh new white coat and should be back just in time for my trip to Daytona next weekend to hit the range.

 

[ahtoxa]

It's refreshing to see companies stand behind their products and services. I often encounter this with smaller organizations that value quality rather than quantity.

 

[SouthFLSonic]

It's refreshing to see companies stand behind their products and services. I often encounter this with smaller organizations that value quality rather than quantity.

I would rather pay a little more to a smaller company that takes pride in their work than to a large one who is cheaper and could care less if you are happy. They are def a small company but crank out great work and have some good prices on the firearms they sell online and in their shop, plus being in Florida it saves on having to pay the FFL fee to ship it to them.

 

[ahtoxa]

I agree.

There are exceptions, though. When I was on the hunt for my 9mm Shield, a local gun shop owner was asking MORE for a stock used Shield with only 2 mags than my local Gander Mountain.

There's a difference between a solid company with right values but a more expensive product vs. straight gouging.

I tried bargaining with the owner, but he discounted the price of used to the price of new at GM. Then he acted like he was insulted by my lower price and I left.

 

[rdss]

I stopped going to gun shops here, I'm a big supporter of them but the shops here gouge the hell out of you. I pick up my guns from the big stores now, either you like the price or you don't and that's the end of the story.

 

[mitdr774]

Been eyeballing a Colt lightweight commander in .38 Super. Would make a nice addition to my 1911 "collection".