whitesmoke
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No I am going to send a message to wot tonight, they already asked me if I wanted them to check on it
2014 rs scr 8040 vs trifecta comparison tests
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whitesmoke
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Holy crap, i just got a message from bnr. Trifrcta wants a new data log again before they can finish the tune
whitesmoke
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I was only kidding about the holding thing, calm down
2014 Blue RS
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DDM was great. No issues and I've dealt with them a few times. BNR to this day never answered a question when I was inquiring about getting the tune. After a month I went to DDM. Besides answering emails they even answer the phone!
Just saying
Just saying
whitesmoke
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Ok i finally got the new tune!!!
i just got the retune from trifecta. I sent them another full 1/4 mile run log from this morning. They wanted to get airflow readings with my ram air scoop before they finalized the tune. Hopefully i will have good news. I will re tune the car in the morning and we have 2 races tomorrow. My 14 yr old son is racing it 1/8 mile in jr street and then i will pound it in pro. Should have some numbers to post tomorrow night.
i just got the retune from trifecta. I sent them another full 1/4 mile run log from this morning. They wanted to get airflow readings with my ram air scoop before they finalized the tune. Hopefully i will have good news. I will re tune the car in the morning and we have 2 races tomorrow. My 14 yr old son is racing it 1/8 mile in jr street and then i will pound it in pro. Should have some numbers to post tomorrow night.
whitesmoke
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not what i expected
Well it did not go good. Best i could get out of it was 15.88@ 86.7. It was hotter than the other times, 82 degrees but humidity and baro were the same. Most it should have slowed is .2. If this trifecta was making any more power than the scr it should have gone at least as fast as the scr 15.35. 60' was way off too. And the shifting is afu, wont shift in d unless you spool it above 4000 and it is impossible to drive at a steady speed with your foot. I think im going to give up on the trifecta. So far scr is the best out there as far as no bs plug in and go fast with absolutely gorgeous trans program and real nice smooth power curve. And that explosion off the line is like a stick car. My hat is off to superchips for a great plug and play unit that works like a factory program. If you have a stock sonic and you want to go fast with no fuss no muss lol, run to bnr or jegs or somebody and buy one of these while they are still around, you wont be dissapointed. You also have to realize that i have an rs auto with every option available meaning it is the heaviest of all sonics, if you look at the guys on here going 14s there cars weight between 200 and 400 lbs less than my car. If i took 400 lbs out of my car it would go 14.80 as it sits with the scr. So in reality they are not making any more power than i am and they have megabucks of mods.
Well it did not go good. Best i could get out of it was 15.88@ 86.7. It was hotter than the other times, 82 degrees but humidity and baro were the same. Most it should have slowed is .2. If this trifecta was making any more power than the scr it should have gone at least as fast as the scr 15.35. 60' was way off too. And the shifting is afu, wont shift in d unless you spool it above 4000 and it is impossible to drive at a steady speed with your foot. I think im going to give up on the trifecta. So far scr is the best out there as far as no bs plug in and go fast with absolutely gorgeous trans program and real nice smooth power curve. And that explosion off the line is like a stick car. My hat is off to superchips for a great plug and play unit that works like a factory program. If you have a stock sonic and you want to go fast with no fuss no muss lol, run to bnr or jegs or somebody and buy one of these while they are still around, you wont be dissapointed. You also have to realize that i have an rs auto with every option available meaning it is the heaviest of all sonics, if you look at the guys on here going 14s there cars weight between 200 and 400 lbs less than my car. If i took 400 lbs out of my car it would go 14.80 as it sits with the scr. So in reality they are not making any more power than i am and they have megabucks of mods.
redhot1.4
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Man i think they should give you ur money back.
whitesmoke
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dont know what to do
im real upset, this trifecta thing is not working like I thought it would. as a matter of fact it sucks. and this is no reflection on bnr, they have nothing to do with the problem. they just sell the product. bnr did what they could and I have no beef with them. im kicking around the idea of doing one more data log and sending it to trifecta but I feel I am wasting my time. right now im re loading mr scr so I can drive the car. I guess all the reading I did on how great trifecta was has been done by people that don't know any better. I may just end up retiring the sonic from racing and use my Camaro.
im real upset, this trifecta thing is not working like I thought it would. as a matter of fact it sucks. and this is no reflection on bnr, they have nothing to do with the problem. they just sell the product. bnr did what they could and I have no beef with them. im kicking around the idea of doing one more data log and sending it to trifecta but I feel I am wasting my time. right now im re loading mr scr so I can drive the car. I guess all the reading I did on how great trifecta was has been done by people that don't know any better. I may just end up retiring the sonic from racing and use my Camaro.
rodslinger
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I've had four or five revisions and none have felt like a proper tune should. I've been randomly vocal about my opinion of the quality of the results.
In fairness I haven't had the opportunity to test their tune on another platform but it really seems they have it WAY off for the 1.4. Far too aggressive throttle map, to erratic, wonky trans tune, etc...
But I have seen the aggressive throttle mapping complaints about their tunes on some of the other platforms also. Maybe someone inexperienced to what a good tune feels like translates that sensitive throttle to more power in their head. You should never tune OUT good driveability.
-edit- I just ordered a Diablosport InTune since it would work on any of my three vehicles. I'd be interested in sending this your way for a weekend to get a three way comparision.
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Sneakerfix
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How are you data logging?
2014 Blue RS
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I'd say mine is touchy on the throttle at start but levels off/leans out pretty quick on the top end. Have no idea how to ask them to adjust. Thoughts?
I don't have a gauge to know what exactly is happening.
I don't have a gauge to know what exactly is happening.
whitesmoke
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i may have been rescued
I can't tell you what's going on but it looks like I'm going to get some REAL help from someone, trifecta is out, I'm not wasting anymore time with that crap. I've got a top secret connection that will work with me to give me what I'm looking for. I could tell you all but then I would have to come kill you lol. was going to give up but got an offer I can't refuse. will keep you posted
I can't tell you what's going on but it looks like I'm going to get some REAL help from someone, trifecta is out, I'm not wasting anymore time with that crap. I've got a top secret connection that will work with me to give me what I'm looking for. I could tell you all but then I would have to come kill you lol. was going to give up but got an offer I can't refuse. will keep you posted
2014 Blue RS
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Very cool. Glad for you and can't wait to hear good news.
whitesmoke
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almost there
we should be ready to start testing the new tune next week, for now I will call it the superlive tune, I have very high hopes for this and should have some decent 1/4 mile times to post soon,
ok my final opinion on the comparison is easy, superchips is a far superior tune on all aspects, it is a true plug and play with no bs for a stock sonic. if you want to go with big mods superchips program cant handle it and cant be changed. I was very disappointed with trifecta tune, just never got any better and I don't believe it would have made any more power than the superchips.
we should be ready to start testing the new tune next week, for now I will call it the superlive tune, I have very high hopes for this and should have some decent 1/4 mile times to post soon,
ok my final opinion on the comparison is easy, superchips is a far superior tune on all aspects, it is a true plug and play with no bs for a stock sonic. if you want to go with big mods superchips program cant handle it and cant be changed. I was very disappointed with trifecta tune, just never got any better and I don't believe it would have made any more power than the superchips.
Stew
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While that post I made with the screenshots from HP Tuners works alright, I recently have been in touch with Jerry at BNR to work out a couple quirks in my tune and would wholly recommend him for an HP Tuners tune. I mentioned in that thread that "this info may not be the only way (or even the best way) to achieve your desired goals" and there are indeed better ways to tune it than what I did.
whitesmoke
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Thanks stew
I'm glad this forum is around. I was ready to jump on the Trifecta bandwagon. But after your reviews; I think I will wait and see what your top secret tune is. Or Just get a superchips. I need something that I can switch from fuel economy to performance. My wife drives like a grandma in the car and I need something for more power. I don't care about transmission shift points. I use the manual mode to shift =P
whitesmoke
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hey brad
I dont know if you read the complete story i did on the superchips in the rs forum. Read it all. That might be just right for you. First off the scr is extremely easy to switch modes, it takes around 5 min right on the monitor. I leave mine on power level 2 and use 93 oct because i found it to be the best all around setting. Level 1 is too sensitive at part throttle, level 2 is nice, and it hammers!! In drive it shifts nice and quick for reg driving which is good for daily driving and mpg and in manual it is killer, you will think your driving a different car, im serious, it pulls twice as hard as stock from 2000 to 5000. If you want to know anything else just ask. And thats on a bone stock rs. No intake, no exhaust. 0-60 went from 9.0 to 6.8 and 1/4 mile went from 16.80 to 15.35. But the 1/8 mile time is equal to a 14.50 car. It really hammers. Up to 65. And i get about 37.5 av mpg on highway runs at 70 mph. My lifetime average on the cars computer for 21,000 miles is 30 mpg. And that includes all the sitting and warming up in the winter.
I dont know if you read the complete story i did on the superchips in the rs forum. Read it all. That might be just right for you. First off the scr is extremely easy to switch modes, it takes around 5 min right on the monitor. I leave mine on power level 2 and use 93 oct because i found it to be the best all around setting. Level 1 is too sensitive at part throttle, level 2 is nice, and it hammers!! In drive it shifts nice and quick for reg driving which is good for daily driving and mpg and in manual it is killer, you will think your driving a different car, im serious, it pulls twice as hard as stock from 2000 to 5000. If you want to know anything else just ask. And thats on a bone stock rs. No intake, no exhaust. 0-60 went from 9.0 to 6.8 and 1/4 mile went from 16.80 to 15.35. But the 1/8 mile time is equal to a 14.50 car. It really hammers. Up to 65. And i get about 37.5 av mpg on highway runs at 70 mph. My lifetime average on the cars computer for 21,000 miles is 30 mpg. And that includes all the sitting and warming up in the winter.