GM Exhaust Option
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JesusTheAgnostic
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That sucks :/
bluejay
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just getting ready to purchase the gm stage kit with the ecm re-flash the 10hp one, from a gm online Canadian wholesaler. i just wanted to double check if i have the right part # for my model .
2016 sonic RS manual hatchback- 23444737
i was originally given 23444736, when i try to search what the difference is between the 2 #'s i get the same general part description for both which has me a bit confused
2016 sonic RS manual hatchback- 23444737
i was originally given 23444736, when i try to search what the difference is between the 2 #'s i get the same general part description for both which has me a bit confused
ScarabEpic22
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There are regular and RS specific exhausts (and therefore calibration #s), so get the one that is correct for your vehicle. Believe the exhaust is just hatch, hatch RS, sedan and then there are a bunch of calibrations based on AT, MT, sedan/hatch, etc (all selectable by dealer after installing exhaust when updating ECM calibration).
23444737 is indeed for the RS
bluejay
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its been 7 days since i placed the order for the exhaust , i have no info on when i might expect the exhaust to be shipped . i reached out to the dealership that runs the site i bought from (roy foss ). i asked why there has been no change to my order status : pending / back order ? the guy at the parts dept told me its going to be a minimum 3 weeks b4 they will even figure out if they have the part i requested . they told me that they have to send my vin# to gm and wait for them to tell me if the part i requested is compatible with my car . in the mean time they have already charged my credit card , but im being told there is a chance gm may decline my purchase request . so now im $800 in the hole no part, waitng another 2 weeks for the possibility that they could tell me the part is discontinued . how can you list parts for sale online and not even know if you have them ? im not impressed with this 
its been 7 days since i placed the order for the exhaust , i have no info on when i might expect the exhaust to be shipped . i reached out to the dealership that runs the site i bought from (roy foss ). i asked why there has been no change to my order status : pending / back order ? the guy at the parts dept told me its going to be a minimum 3 weeks b4 they will even figure out if they have the part i requested . they told me that they have to send my vin# to gm and wait for them to tell me if the part i requested is compatible with my car . in the mean time they have already charged my credit card , but im being told there is a chance gm may decline my purchase request . so now im $800 in the hole no part, waitng another 2 weeks for the possibility that they could tell me the part is discontinued . how can you list parts for sale online and not even know if you have them ? im not impressed with this
It looks like it's a direct ship from vendor. In that case, it can take anywhere from a couple days to a few weeks. At the dealer end, we don't know. We generally get invoiced for it a few days before we even receive the part.
What we do is transmit the order to GM, and then they do the rest. If they have stock, they send it. If they don't they order it from the vendor. It shows me that the vendor does have stock though.
Out of curiosity, what is their website for online ordering?
I always recommend you go into the dealer to order. Depending on the dealer, you will have to pay upfront for special order. I know we don't charge until the customer actually comes and picks them up.
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Out of curiosity, what was the price?
Most sites I believe sell at what is called trade price. It's what GM believes we should sell the part to other shops and garages at. Again, speaking from our dealership, larger purchases we will try and sell at trade to make the sale if the customer is serious about the purchase. The profit on most parts is massive.
bluejay
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$820 Canadian
Wilson niblette was $1167 install+tax
Roy Nichols was 1177 install +tax
I would also like to add that I don't feel I'm being wronged in anyway by Gm or the dealer or site I purchased from . What makes me lugubrious is the system u parts guys have to follow. It would be nicer if you guys have more information to give the customer. When they have questions about the products being back ordered or discontinued. The parts guy should be able to see if a part is available from their computer and not have to wait three weeks for an answer. I feel the parts guy at my dealer cares more about my business then some ya boo sitting in an office thousands of miles away
Wilson niblette was $1167 install+tax
Roy Nichols was 1177 install +tax
I would also like to add that I don't feel I'm being wronged in anyway by Gm or the dealer or site I purchased from . What makes me lugubrious is the system u parts guys have to follow. It would be nicer if you guys have more information to give the customer. When they have questions about the products being back ordered or discontinued. The parts guy should be able to see if a part is available from their computer and not have to wait three weeks for an answer. I feel the parts guy at my dealer cares more about my business then some ya boo sitting in an office thousands of miles away
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We complain about it every single day, it frustrates us more than anything. We can't even get answers for us, let alone customers. We are told nothing. Especially when it is directly from a vendor. We only get some sort of notice once the dealer has been invoiced for it.
When the part is from GM, we at least get told the ship date and the warehouse.
The whole issue is when its from a vendor, we have no clue, its either vendor has stock or no stock. Some send it quicker than others. We aren't even given a vendor name. It's literally a cluster**** and just makes our jobs more stressful than it has to be.
bluejay
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Is gm aware of this problem , or do they choose to ignore it and hope it just gets better on its own ? There needs to be a North American data base that all dealers have access to ,that's updated every few business days . And GM I'll gladly accept reimbursement for this million $ idea lol:banana:
bluejay
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so i got the exhaust installed no problems . i went to hogan chevy to get the ecm reprogrammed . i was first told they couldnt do it . they told me that i have to go to the dealer i bought it from . i said it clearly states the i can take it to any gm dealer to get the reprogram and clearly states the cost of re programming the engine computer is included in the cost of the kit and the dealer is instructed to charge the reflash to labour code .the technician at hogan told me that i would have had to buy the exhaust from hogan to get a free re flash . so they told me i have to pay $75 to call tcsc to get my vci# for my vin then said i would be charged another $120 for labor . i have all the paperwork that came with the kit and it states very clearly the cost of reprogramming is included in the cost of the kit!!!!
@hectic @ carnskis please help . am i being given false info from hogan ?
@hectic @ carnskis please help . am i being given false info from hogan ?
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MyLonewolf25
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Is there any place to look up gm performance parts easily for the sonic
I'm still under warranty for a while but I want something better than stock at least for the exhaust and intake
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I'm still under warranty for a while but I want something better than stock at least for the exhaust and intake
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ScarabEpic22
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Go to a different dealer. Or call GM customer care/service and let them know what's happening.
bluejay
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chevrolet.com at the bottom of the page look for owners and under owner you should see the accessories option . thats where i went to look for part#'s
i just installed the turbo stage kit, the borla exhaust with ecm reflash for the 10hp-15 lb/tq . i have an appointment for the reflash on monday and have been driving around with the exhaust installed since yesterday . its probably the most expensive option for a sonic exhaust but id say the sound and build quality is a-1 . it was very easy to install myself . took me 1.5 hrs , most of that time was spent jacking up the car to put on jack stands. NOTE if you choose to install the system yourself you will have to pay to have the ecm reflashed , even tho it says that the reflash is included in the cost of the kit . one dealer told me it would be $200 to reflash and another dealer told me $60 so look around at a couple different dealers you may find one that will do the re flash for free. the exhaust is awesome and ill give another update once i have the ecm reflashed.
i just installed the turbo stage kit, the borla exhaust with ecm reflash for the 10hp-15 lb/tq . i have an appointment for the reflash on monday and have been driving around with the exhaust installed since yesterday . its probably the most expensive option for a sonic exhaust but id say the sound and build quality is a-1 . it was very easy to install myself . took me 1.5 hrs , most of that time was spent jacking up the car to put on jack stands. NOTE if you choose to install the system yourself you will have to pay to have the ecm reflashed , even tho it says that the reflash is included in the cost of the kit . one dealer told me it would be $200 to reflash and another dealer told me $60 so look around at a couple different dealers you may find one that will do the re flash for free. the exhaust is awesome and ill give another update once i have the ecm reflashed.