SSpeckerwood
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My cable was adjusted properly. So what now?
Second gear grinding & remedy
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nocoolnames
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So just got my car back with new transmission and surprise it still grinds! Anyways the clutch travel is much shorter and it let's out at the bottom instead of the top now. Has anyone else had something like this happen after getting it serviced?
brandon1239
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Yup, I too got the trans replaced, along with the slave cylinder,clutch and master. And it still grinds, I believe there will be a recall soon. The dealer has replaced everything involved with the trans and mine still grinds.
brandon1239
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Yup, that was the first thing, and I have redline in it too
lambertsonic
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I think some of you need to learn how to drive , the only grind I get time to time is when I shift into reverse and apparently there is no fix for it .
nocoolnames
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It's not how we are driving them its the car, I've never had a problem in the past 14 years I've been driving stick. Hell we got truckers on here who have their cars grinding, those guys know how to drive a manual.
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sx sonic
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So I just changed out my fluid yesterday (I used lucas 75w-90 syn) and after a fair amount of trying I have not had a gear grind, its still too early to give a factual opinion, but at this point I am quite satisfied.
I will post an update in a week or two. If no grind after that point I will be a happy camper!
On a different note has anyone had trouble getting into first (aside frome the 20mph lockout)???
My first shift into 1st or a downshift into it is unduly difficult. Intially it was just around 20mph (bc lockout feature) but in the last couple weeks its gotten quite noticable. I really have to push on the shifter and hold it until it finall drops in.. its like trying to shove a big shaft into a small hole, lots of resistance and then it finally goes in (sorry for the euphemisim its the best analogy I can come up with). So yeah anyone else have this issue?
-tyler
I will post an update in a week or two. If no grind after that point I will be a happy camper!
On a different note has anyone had trouble getting into first (aside frome the 20mph lockout)???
My first shift into 1st or a downshift into it is unduly difficult. Intially it was just around 20mph (bc lockout feature) but in the last couple weeks its gotten quite noticable. I really have to push on the shifter and hold it until it finall drops in.. its like trying to shove a big shaft into a small hole, lots of resistance and then it finally goes in (sorry for the euphemisim its the best analogy I can come up with). So yeah anyone else have this issue?
-tyler
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Foxbox
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My fluid swap went the same way. I was extremely happy right after and about a week or two following, then it started to grind again from time to time. I'm interested to hear how yours ends up fairing.
As for the 1st gear thing idk, I've not had any issues going into first gear. You shouldn't be downshifting into first gear anyway (your post seems to convey that it does it going from neutral to 1st as well which is odd).
SSpeckerwood
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I did a NLS yesterday while it was 20 degrees without any grinding. Seems like the heavier fluid is helping me. The motor and transmission were at operating temp though.
nocoolnames
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If you can't get it in when your stopped let the clutch in and out with car in neutral, this moves gears around so easier to get into gear. Same thing works with reverse if you have issue with that. You shouldn't be downshifting into first while driving only forbstarting from a stop. Alot of cars dont have synchros on first, I don't know if the sonic does or not.
sx sonic
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Usually when I down shift into 1st I'm stopped or going less that 8mph.
After I get it into first it will go in and out like every other gear, I realize some of that is just the dogs getting shifted around but man is it stiff going in. It makes me suspect the alignment is off but after dealing with my previous dealer about the 2nd gear grind and asking them to perform the bullitin and them not doing anything I no longer desire to go back. I also don't want to swap all my crap back to stock just to get this done (they gave me **** about an ultrgauge!!) Guess I'll live with it for awhile longer
I will keep everyone aprised of the grind as I log some more miles with the new fluid, so far I'm satisfied
After I get it into first it will go in and out like every other gear, I realize some of that is just the dogs getting shifted around but man is it stiff going in. It makes me suspect the alignment is off but after dealing with my previous dealer about the 2nd gear grind and asking them to perform the bullitin and them not doing anything I no longer desire to go back. I also don't want to swap all my crap back to stock just to get this done (they gave me **** about an ultrgauge!!) Guess I'll live with it for awhile longer
I will keep everyone aprised of the grind as I log some more miles with the new fluid, so far I'm satisfied
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ChrisJ
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FYI trucks are not synchronized transmissions. I also know some truckers who think its safe to shift a synchronized trans without the clutch, guess what ITS NOT. They drive trucks, they do not engineer transmissions. When you shift a synchronized transmission without using the clutch ANY mismatch in speed between gears is taken up by the synchronizer and there is no way in hell you will ever have them perfectly matched.
Not that it helps but I'm now at 2500 miles and not a single grind in any gear ever, I hope my luck continues. I never shift into 1st unless I'm at or below 10mph.
sx sonic : Thicker oil will cause downshifting into 1st while moving to become harder. As I said previously its harder for the synchros to speed the gear up due to the thick oil. The next time you have this problem shift into neutral, let the clutch up and rev the engine up to around 4K then push the clutch back down before the rpms drop and try to shift into 1st. I'm betting it will slide right in effortlessly.
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nocoolnames
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Oh okay I thought you meant you where driving at speed and down shifting to first. I understand them going ya crap they did same thing to me, I had to remove my ultra gauge and ddm shifter bushings before they would replace my transmission.
nocoolnames
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I know trucks arnt synchronized and I know you have to use the clutch. I was simply pointing out that they know how to drive a manual compared to people that buy a manual without knowing how to drive one.
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