Aem water injection kit/ 1 gallon container?!
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american_tuner
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Well it looks like I lied. Method is my next order. I was gonna be done with my build guess not lol
SONIC1.4
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Well I have pretty much all of the performance parts from BNR. Turboback exhaust is on the way. I don't yet have an aftermarket intake but after that ill have all the goods.. So im close.
sonic24740
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now my next question is.. is the ddm one a better choice or the the bnr has witch uses maf reading..
SONIC1.4
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Are you talking about meth injection or air intake??
sonic24740
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laborsmith
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Dave Michel (DDM in the name DDMWorks) has a lot of experience using water/meth injection in small cid cars.
I did not look at the BNR version but it could be the DDM as BNR is a reseller for some DDM products.
Laborsmith
I did not look at the BNR version but it could be the DDM as BNR is a reseller for some DDM products.
Laborsmith
sonic24740
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sonic24740
Zippy
i am rather wondering how come no one has really done this yet??
american_tuner
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I'm ready to be the first one to do it
Dave@ddmworks
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We have run a bunch of cars with E85 and water/meth now, and I tend to like water/meth setups for a couple reasons.
From our experience you can get very similar gains from E85 or from water/meth setups, usually around 10-15% wheel hp increase. Both of them allow you to run more timing without detonation which is where the power gain is from, but they do it in different ways.
The reason I like the water/meth personally is that it is very easy to find windshield washer fluid whenever I fill up with gas, but with E85 I have to look for certain stations which can be a pain when traveling. Also since E85 requires you to deliver more fuel for the same power, you run higher duty cycle on the injectors (this is why you have to upgrade the injectors with the E85 tune). Also, E85 will get worse gas mileage then regular gas since it has lower energy density than regular gasoline. With the water/meth you only use it when you go full throttle, so your fuel economy stays the same, you will make about the same power as E85 and it keeps your engine really clean and carbon free which also helps with preventing detonation. On Direct injection cars we really like it also as it keeps the intake valves clean.
So that is why we like water/meth injection over E85. Hope that helps.
Dave
From our experience you can get very similar gains from E85 or from water/meth setups, usually around 10-15% wheel hp increase. Both of them allow you to run more timing without detonation which is where the power gain is from, but they do it in different ways.
The reason I like the water/meth personally is that it is very easy to find windshield washer fluid whenever I fill up with gas, but with E85 I have to look for certain stations which can be a pain when traveling. Also since E85 requires you to deliver more fuel for the same power, you run higher duty cycle on the injectors (this is why you have to upgrade the injectors with the E85 tune). Also, E85 will get worse gas mileage then regular gas since it has lower energy density than regular gasoline. With the water/meth you only use it when you go full throttle, so your fuel economy stays the same, you will make about the same power as E85 and it keeps your engine really clean and carbon free which also helps with preventing detonation. On Direct injection cars we really like it also as it keeps the intake valves clean.
So that is why we like water/meth injection over E85. Hope that helps.
Dave
sonic24740
Zippy
I have in installed with do a little write up on it this weekend. I Still have to do a log and am waiting on my afr to come in on friday and put it in adjust a little then do a log and see how it goes..
Also I got my kit from ddm Awesome people...
Also I got my kit from ddm Awesome people...
american_tuner
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Is there a gauge that you can run to see how Mich meth to water mix like an AFR?