Aem water injection kit/ 1 gallon container?!

[$ub$onic]

The the clutch should be the same as the one in the 1.4. So yes it will hold

 

[pighair47]

The the clutch should be the same as the one in the 1.4. So yes it will hold

how about the transmission ? or will the clutch fail before the transmission.

 

[$ub$onic]

I would not worry. Unless you plan on doing a turbo swap with hella power.

 

[pighair47]

I would not worry. Unless you plan on doing a turbo swap with hella power.

thanks for the information, i will have to keep this in mind as a potential upgrade in the near future :banana:

 

[turbo]

Why did I have to stumble across these kits....I don't need to sink anymore money into my daily driver....but....I found a speed shop not far from my house with plenty of experience putting these kits in, and their install price is pretty reasonable with a full throttle switch. Think I may have found my next (future) mod....:banana:

 

[Dave@ddmworks]

questions regarding running meth.

1) will it work with the 1.8.
2) will stock 1.8 clutch and transmission be able to withstand the power increase
3) if you run out of meth will the car still run correctly or does it always need to be filled.

- Yes the kit will work and can be installed on the 1.8L
- Depends on how much power you are running
- If you run out of water/meth and go full load the car will not be happy.

On a naturally aspirated car you are not going to see much if any gains, really the water/meth is best for forced induction engines. Kinda like E85 on a naturally aspirated engine, just not a lot of gains to be had, but big gains can be seen with forced induction.

Hope that helps,
Dave

 

[pighair47]

- Yes the kit will work and can be installed on the 1.8L
- Depends on how much power you are running
- If you run out of water/meth and go full load the car will not be happy.

On a naturally aspirated car you are not going to see much if any gains, really the water/meth is best for forced induction engines. Kinda like E85 on a naturally aspirated engine, just not a lot of gains to be had, but big gains can be seen with forced induction.

Hope that helps,
Dave

thanks for the information.
so what your saying is that there would be little to no gain in hp ?

 

[sonic24740]

Is there a gauge that you can run to see how Mich meth to water mix like an AFR?

yea an afr guage wideband is better..

 

[Dave@ddmworks]

thanks for the information.
so what your saying is that there would be little to no gain in hp ?

On a naturally aspirated 1.8L, there is probably going to be little gain. The 1.4L though is a different story

 

[Dave@ddmworks]

Is there a gauge that you can run to see how Mich meth to water mix like an AFR?

We have installed these on a couple different installs and it is a neat gauge to have and monitor -

Water/Methanol Failsafe Device, Water/Methanol Safety Device, Water/Methanol Inj - Wideband O2 UEGO, Water/Methanol, Stand Alone Engine Management, Piggyback F/IC, Tru Boost Controller, Gauges, Automotive Performance Electronics

 

[sonic24740]

We have installed these on a couple different installs and it is a neat gauge to have and monitor -

Water/Methanol Failsafe Device, Water/Methanol Safety Device, Water/Methanol Inj - Wideband O2 UEGO, Water/Methanol, Stand Alone Engine Management, Piggyback F/IC, Tru Boost Controller, Gauges, Automotive Performance Electronics

yea it is..

 

[BoostedSnail]

who has a tune for this

 

[laborsmith]

I wonder if water/meth injection would be more effective for direct injected engines than oil catch-cans? I know our engines are not DI but am certain it won't be long. Admittedly, I look at the catch-can as a band aid.

Laborsmith

 

[Dave@ddmworks]

who has a tune for this

Vince should be able to tune it without any trouble, it is easier to tune than E85 in our experience since you do not have to change the fueling, just the timing.

I wonder if water/meth injection would be more effective for direct injected engines than oil catch-cans? I know our engines are not DI but am certain it won't be long. Admittedly, I look at the catch-can as a band aid.

Laborsmith

On DI engines it is really nice since it keeps the back side of the intake valves clean, but a good oil catch can is just as important so that you limit how much build up you get on the back of the valves.

 

[BNRacing]

Vince charges the same to tune for water meth and for e85, and yeah water meth can give very similar results to e85. The only downside that I see with running water meth is you don't have a fail safe really. If the pump stops working or something you could really mess up a motor. That's not to say we don't sell and tune water meth kits, I actually installed a snow performance boost cooler kit yesterday on a solstice gxp and then did a dyno tune for him with Vince. We picked up 26whp and 35wtq with the meth

 

[SPOTWORK]

I thought there were built-in failsafes for failures like that?

 

[wingman]

In post #50 there is a link to a failsafe gauge/control. I'm confused, is or isn't there a failsafe?

 

[SPOTWORK]

My thoughts exactly wtf lol

 

[sonic24740]

In post #50 there is a link to a failsafe gauge/control. I'm confused, is or isn't there a failsafe?

there is a fail safe kit you can buy with a gauge and all.that an extra kit.


Also the aem water/meth kit has two wires optional 0-5v press out and boost-safe.. witch you can hook up to a solenoid for a wast gate to vent boost to prevent engine damage should the control see a error like no pressure or pump failure..

 

[BNRacing]

Well hey if it can be wired to a solenoid for the wastegate or something then great. I just didn't want people to think it's a simple plug and play really. I'm happy to sell someone this stuff if they want it, just want to make sure people know this isn't something a novice should attempt ya know?