Deaddog Saloon
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Insanika
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The heart is a beautiful thing... If I ever move somewhere big enough I'd really like to specialize in cardiology and do cardiac rehab for post MI patients. I've seen runners who have trouble with passing out when they get too relaxed because they have such low heart rates.
ahtoxa
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My heart at rest in the early morning will be about mid 50's. Sometimes low 50's, but that's rare.
I was sitting in the cardio office yesterday, and the nurse took my pulse. I asked her what it was and she's like "nice and low 68". Dang, 68 is somewhat high.
I was even more surprised to learn that docs consider a range of 60-100 beats per minute normal. What the hell - if you're sitting watching TV, no way your heart should do 100 beats a minute.
I was sitting in the cardio office yesterday, and the nurse took my pulse. I asked her what it was and she's like "nice and low 68". Dang, 68 is somewhat high.
I was even more surprised to learn that docs consider a range of 60-100 beats per minute normal. What the hell - if you're sitting watching TV, no way your heart should do 100 beats a minute.
ahtoxa
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Speaking of moving, I have a conversation with my director coming up this week about a couple business opportunities within the company. New line of business we acquired is in Southern Cali.
Might be an opportunity. For the right money, I'll go to SoCal.
ChrisJ
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One day you'll realize every person is different and I'm sure some hearts pump less blood @ 50 than others meaning they need to pump faster for the same result.
The reason they have a range is because one number doesn't apply to everyone.
opcorn:
ahtoxa
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The reason they have a huge range is because America is fat. opcorn:
I'm so glad that the days have cooled off. The mornings are now in mid-60s and the weather during the day is so much better. I can go out for a hike and not soak my shirt with sweat.
Can't wait for 'winter' to do more camping. I've not backpacked in a few months, since it's been so brutally hot. This heat is really limiting where I can go, mostly because I need to stick by bodies of water, to ensure the dog doesn't overheat. He was close to heatstroke about a month ago, and it was too close of a call. Luckily I was watching him for it and caught it in time.
opcorn:I'm so glad that the days have cooled off. The mornings are now in mid-60s and the weather during the day is so much better. I can go out for a hike and not soak my shirt with sweat.
Can't wait for 'winter' to do more camping. I've not backpacked in a few months, since it's been so brutally hot. This heat is really limiting where I can go, mostly because I need to stick by bodies of water, to ensure the dog doesn't overheat. He was close to heatstroke about a month ago, and it was too close of a call. Luckily I was watching him for it and caught it in time.
ChrisJ
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The reason they have a huge range is because America is fat.
I'm so glad that the days have cooled off. The mornings are now in mid-60s and the weather during the day is so much better. I can go out for a hike and not soak my shirt with sweat.
Can't wait for 'winter' to do more camping. I've not backpacked in a few months, since it's been so brutally hot. This heat is really limiting where I can go, mostly because I need to stick by bodies of water, to ensure the dog doesn't overheat. He was close to heatstroke about a month ago, and it was too close of a call. Luckily I was watching him for it and caught it in time.
Not all of America is fat and normal does not apply to fat.
Russia would be fat too if they had any money. :banana:
ahtoxa
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American normal is generally overweight in most of the Western world. Unless a male is well over 6 feet, they shouldn't weight at or over 200 lbs.
Our problem is fairly simple - we consume tons of sugar (mostly through soft drinks) and genetically-modified foods as well as foods stuffed with hormones and antibiotics. All those invisible factors add up over years.
The shift to organic is picking up speed. People are getting educated. I remember reading an article that was astonishing - it listed a few hormones and chemical additives we widely use in food today, which have been banned from use in most of the civilized world.
I'll see if I can find the article, where it lists these chemicals and explains their purpose and side effects.
Our problem is fairly simple - we consume tons of sugar (mostly through soft drinks) and genetically-modified foods as well as foods stuffed with hormones and antibiotics. All those invisible factors add up over years.
The shift to organic is picking up speed. People are getting educated. I remember reading an article that was astonishing - it listed a few hormones and chemical additives we widely use in food today, which have been banned from use in most of the civilized world.
I'll see if I can find the article, where it lists these chemicals and explains their purpose and side effects.
Wooksquatch
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Rich food poor food outlines all the bad stuff in American foods that are outlawed in other countries.
ChrisJ
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In American, we don't ban something that makes money, doesn't matter how bad it is for whatever it's being used for.
I'd really like to see what's banned in Russia but commonly sold in the US? As far as I knew in Russia it's basically a free for all.
ahtoxa
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Check this out for a list of chemicals allowed in US but not in most of the the world. It doesn't specifically state anything about Russia, but it gets the point across.
Banned Ingredients: Unhealthy Food Additives in US Food - Shape Magazine
Banned Ingredients: Unhealthy Food Additives in US Food - Shape Magazine
SouthFLSonic
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Doesn't matter if you pay more now for the Organic because you will still pay more for insurance later because all of the people that are still eating this trash they call food......
Pay now, pay later, the American way right?
ahtoxa
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No, I mean pay later for your doc's visits and procedures.
Yeah, you're still going to get raped on insurance premiums due to overall decline in health we will see in this new generation, but I was referring to personal costs.
ChrisJ
Active member
I don't know.
I'm sure you don't care about my opinion because I'm fat but I feel the reason most people are overweight now has more to do with their lifestyle and how much they eat rather than what they eat.
If you get out and exercise plenty and eat a normal amount there is no reason you should be overweight regardless of what the actual food is.
My dad was 120lbs most of his life but gained some after he quit smoking. I think he's up to 140lbs or so now and he's 5'8. He doesn't eat anything special, in fact he eats a lot of food most consider bad for you but he eats small portions and gets plenty of exercise.
I'm not saying eating healthy isn't important, I'm saying I feel it's not responsible for people being overweight. I think that's calories in vs calories out.
I'm sure you don't care about my opinion because I'm fat but I feel the reason most people are overweight now has more to do with their lifestyle and how much they eat rather than what they eat.
If you get out and exercise plenty and eat a normal amount there is no reason you should be overweight regardless of what the actual food is.
My dad was 120lbs most of his life but gained some after he quit smoking. I think he's up to 140lbs or so now and he's 5'8. He doesn't eat anything special, in fact he eats a lot of food most consider bad for you but he eats small portions and gets plenty of exercise.
I'm not saying eating healthy isn't important, I'm saying I feel it's not responsible for people being overweight. I think that's calories in vs calories out.
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ahtoxa
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You're right, Chris. It's a combination of factors, really. The cliche "Junk in, junk out" is quite prevalent here. Exercise is definitely helpful, but you're not getting the most out of it, unless you're getting the right nutrition.
The mistake people make when dieting, is limiting calories. By not eating much (of substance), the body lacks the fuel it needs during exercise. What people should be doing, is increasing nutritional value of their food, and with that lower calories will come.
Those who are fit also eat more even when they aren't exercising, because being in better shape in general is more energy-demanding and your metabolic rate is higher.
My dog is a perfect example. He's in phenomenal shape, and he eats about 50-65% on top of the standard ratio of food recommended for his weight. Quite expensive, actually, as he gets high-quality, expensive food.
The mistake people make when dieting, is limiting calories. By not eating much (of substance), the body lacks the fuel it needs during exercise. What people should be doing, is increasing nutritional value of their food, and with that lower calories will come.
Those who are fit also eat more even when they aren't exercising, because being in better shape in general is more energy-demanding and your metabolic rate is higher.
My dog is a perfect example. He's in phenomenal shape, and he eats about 50-65% on top of the standard ratio of food recommended for his weight. Quite expensive, actually, as he gets high-quality, expensive food.
SouthFLSonic
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Congrats man!
ahtoxa
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What will you be doing? Hardcore pr0n set clean-up crew?
Nothing like removing pools of lube and bodily fluids after a 10-person...ugh...event.
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