Gun thread (pictures)

[mitdr774]

How can you scoff at XD's because they are made in Croatia but praise a gun made in Czech-Republic?

Simple, CZ in not a historic American name slapped on a product made in another country. The XD also does not fit my hand at all and felt cheap when i handled it. If it was sold under the name of the manufacture that produces it, i would have far less problem with it. It might be a fine product, but it doesnt fit my hand well and I refuse to by an iconic American brand like Springfield that is just another product from another country. Its a personal issue. Would you buy a Corvette made in China? I wouldnt.

Yes my M&P22 is actually a Walther, but Walther produces quality products and it is made obvious that its a Walther produced firearm. CZ produces a damn good product. It is also a product that is more of what I want in a handgun. I prefer an all metal, hammer gun over a striker fire polymer gun. Unfortunately most of what is out there tends to be polymer striker fire.

 

[14T6MT]

Unfortunately most of what is out there tends to be polymer striker fire.

There are many reasons for that. I like all-metal hammer guns as well, just not for a military style do-it-all rugged gun. Classic single-stack 1911s in .45 ACP are, by far, my favorite handgun to shoot.

 

[rdss]

Simple, CZ in not a historic American name slapped on a product made in another country. The XD also does not fit my hand at all and felt cheap when i handled it. If it was sold under the name of the manufacture that produces it, i would have far less problem with it. It might be a fine product, but it doesnt fit my hand well and I refuse to by an iconic American brand like Springfield that is just another product from another country. Its a personal issue. Would you buy a Corvette made in China? I wouldnt.

Yes my M&P22 is actually a Walther, but Walther produces quality products and it is made obvious that its a Walther produced firearm. CZ produces a damn good product. It is also a product that is more of what I want in a handgun. I prefer an all metal, hammer gun over a striker fire polymer gun. Unfortunately most of what is out there tends to be polymer striker fire.

Got ya, screw the SA XD's made in Croatia and once again, praise a company that does what you don't like with the XD...... Walther built S&W branded guns.... The only thing you have said that works for me is it doesn't fit your hand. If you haven't tried the XDm with different back straps then you're missing out.

 

[mitdr774]

The M&P22 does not hide the fact that it is a Walter. I know its a Walther and have no problem with Walther. Right from the S&W website " Made by the .22 experts at Carl Walther, GmbH for Smith & Wesson". One model from the entire product line made by someone else is not the same as the entire product line being built by some other company. I guess I see things differently.

I have no clue who makes the XD. Not aware of anyone that does know. If i did know I might feel a little differently. I have not even come across a XDm to handle. They just dont really exist around here, at least not in any of the places i go.

Place of manufacture was just one of the factors to turn me away from the XD.

 

[rdss]

It's the HS2000 developed by Hrvatski Samokres....... Google is a fickle beast.

HS2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And last time I checked, the only mass produced Amercian made US military weapon is the M-4/M-16 by Colt and every one is at the point of producing something lighter, smaller and more reliable (SCAR, ACR, H&K's MR556, etc...). What you can count on is the Beretta M9, Sig M11/MK25 and K&K MP5.

 

[mitdr774]

Thank you for the link. Knowing it is a widely used by military and police has some effect on easing concerns about it. That being said, I still wouldnt own a standard XD. Same reason a frined of mine wont own a M&P, it does not fit my hand well at all. It just feels off in both grip and balance. As no XDm is available around me I can no comment on how it feels.

The M&P fits my hand perfect and seems to balance quite well for me, taking into account that it is a polymer frame. That is one reason I enjoy shooting them. I would still prefer an all metal hammer gun though. For balance and feel I cant argue with an all metal gun in my hands. I shoot my CZ75BD and Kimber Pro Carry II very well out to 35-40 compared to any of the polymer guns I own. I have to assume that a part of that is how they balance and fit in my hand.

 

[rdss]

Yeah, I'm not trying to sway your personal choice or preference just the fact that they are a quality manufacturer and SA wouldn't bring them to the US if they were not of the highest quality. I have no problems with Glocks, they just do not fit my hand right, but Sig's are also one of my favorites.

 

[mitdr774]

Very few Glocks seem fit my hand well either. Seems odd since a few do fit very well. Only Sig I have ever handled was a P238.

Some dayI will have a 5" 1911 for my collection, but not for a while.

 

[rdss]

Very few Glocks seem fit my hand well either. Seems odd since a few do fit very well. Only Sig I have ever handled was a P238.

Some dayI will have a 5" 1911 for my collection, but not for a while.

It's the grip angle I don't care for on the Glocks.

I've used the Sig M11 for duty quite a bit as well as the Beretta M9, Navy Full auto Colt M-16 and the good ole Mossberg 500.

 

[mitdr774]

I almost picked up a 92FS M9A1 but it was gone by the time I got to the shop. An AR-15 would be nice to have, but they are to damn expensive right now. Around me even the Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 are getting scarce. My local shop has very few firearms left, and minimal ammunition supplies.

 

[rdss]

Yeah. It's a bad time for the black rifle, high cap mags and ammo.

 

[mitdr774]

I found a few "Evil Black Rifles", but I am not going to pay twice MSRP for something that I can not even buy ammunition for right now.

 

[Sonny@bnr]

Yeah prices are ridiculous esp when cheap company 800-900$ ar's are going for 2000$ on gun broker

 

[mitdr774]

Back in november I sold my M&P15 Sport to a buddy for $575. Last month he sold it for $1100. BTW, both people are CPL holders, so twice removed from me still put it in the hands of someone that went through a decent background check already.

Maybe this will eventually calm down and idiots will quit trying to ban something that is not the reason for what they are trying to stop.

 

[JaSonic]

Don't own any rifles, but i do have a 9m xdm

 

[Sonny@bnr]

Don't own any rifles, but i do have a 9m xdm

I like those been meaning to add one to my collection

 

[Kuntryboy865]

I was going to buy a gun with my return but since all the rifles I want are sold out and most of the handguns I want are sold out and expensive i've choose to for go my warrenty and go with a tune and an intake and something else.

 

[doreo]

I still want a 10/22 haven't lookes at them lately but I dont expect them to be to costly I hope lol

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[rdss]

They have a high cap mag capability, I'm sure they are hurting on the shelves as well.

 

[mitdr774]

I have not come across a 10/22 on a shelf in a couple months. Unless its on the "exclusions" list it would fall under the new deffinition if I read things right. Something like 80% of firearms produced would fall under the new deffinition of "assault weapon" they want to use.

I didnt know you could just make up some term on your own and then change it whenever you want in order to have it suit your needs.