Lowering Without Springs?

[rdss]

There is a right way to cut springs, and there is the way ricers do them. start with small cut's about an 1/8th to a 1/4 of a coil at a time keep putting them in and pulling them out until you get the desired drop but no more than 1 and 1/2 coils should be removed.

There really is no "right way" to hack up a spring/suspension and that's what you are doing, a hack job on the suspension to get it to be something that it was not designed or tested to be. But, if you're willing to put your life as well as the people around you on the line go for it. Like everyone else stated, they do not ride right because they see all the ricer doing it and I don't care how you cut it, it causes heat in the steel and changes the elasticity (rebound of the metal, just like poping a dent, every time you do it it will pop in and out easier only fatuging the metal more) of the metal no matter what.

But, once again, if you're willing to reduce the drivability and feel that it is safe and will get that loud and low look you're going for go for it, it's your car and no one elses............

 

[Eric Smit]

I'd risk my life for loud and low.


-Eric Smit

 

[theenico]

There really is no "right way" to hack up a spring/suspension and that's what you are doing, a hack job on the suspension to get it to be something that it was not designed or tested to be. But, if you're willing to put your life as well as the people around you on the line go for it. Like everyone else stated, they do not ride right because they see all the ricer doing it and I don't care how you cut it, it causes heat in the steel and changes the elasticity (rebound of the metal, just like poping a dent, every time you do it it will pop in and out easier only fatuging the metal more) of the metal no matter what.

But, once again, if you're willing to reduce the drivability and feel that it is safe and will get that loud and low look you're going for go for it, it's your car and no one elses............

Cutting coils is NOT a hack. Done properly, it is a very viable way to lower a car. If you use a cold saw or a hacksaw with cutting fluid, you are not effecting the heat treating of the coils.

It's the unwashed masses (morons) that screw it up by heating the coils and/or removing too much material to achieve the "in the weeds" stance.

If you continue to post random crap without any knowledge or personal experience to back up your bullisht, you'll be the third person to make it on my ignored users list.

 

[Eric Smit]

In a ratio of proper:ricer, how many do you see cut springs properly?


-Eric Smit

 

[ThatTmoGuy]

In a ratio of proper:ricer, how many do you see cut springs properly?


-Eric Smit

1:200, the problem most people are not patient enough to do it the right way. JIC you glanced over it before here it goes.

Remove the stock spring from the perch.
Determine what side you are going to cut from (you want to cut the side where the coils don't contact each other)
Remove no more than 1/8 to 1/4 of a coil (follow the radius of the coil)
Replace coil in the car and drive it around at least 10-15 miles
If the car isn't low enough repeat taking no more than 1-1 1/2 coils MAX.


Ricers say "well i want a two inch drop so ill cut two inches away from the top of the spring that'll work right?" then they end up cutting two whole coils in the first go and start riding mere mm's from the bump stop.

 

[laborsmith]

I think welding steel bars in place of springs would be worse. ;P


-Eric Smit

Maybe.

Laborsmith

 

[sx sonic]

Id put others in danger for low and loud. Safety second

 

[Eric Smit]

1:200, the problem most people are not patient enough to do it the right way. JIC you glanced over it before here it goes.

Remove the stock spring from the perch.
Determine what side you are going to cut from (you want to cut the side where the coils don't contact each other)
Remove no more than 1/8 to 1/4 of a coil (follow the radius of the coil)
Replace coil in the car and drive it around at least 10-15 miles
If the car isn't low enough repeat taking no more than 1-1 1/2 coils MAX.


Ricers say "well i want a two inch drop so ill cut two inches away from the top of the spring that'll work right?" then they end up cutting two whole coils in the first go and start riding mere mm's from the bump stop.

Oh, I saw that note, I'm just not going to cut springs. I can pay for springs and feel much better about myself. Plus I get stickers I can throw away; that's a win-win!

 

[ThatTmoGuy]

I want air springs all the way around, not air bags air springs. Low is nice until you can't get into a parking lot or driveway because your dragging the body across the pavement.

 

[Thaifight-R]

From what I've heard, the "right" way of cutting these mostly applies to linear springs. I'm pretty sure you can't cut progressive "pig tail" coils as easily without ruining them since the mounting points (top and bottom) won't necessarily fit the car anymore, not to mention you'll be changing the way they compress/decompress...

Hope that helps.

 

[ThatTmoGuy]

From what I've heard, the "right" way of cutting these mostly applies to linear springs. I'm pretty sure you can't cut progressive "pig tail" coils as easily without ruining them since the mounting points (top and bottom) won't necessarily fit the car anymore, not to mention you'll be changing the way they compress/decompress...

Hope that helps.

Thats why i want a spare set to mess with, if i fudge them up ill still have my stockers to put back on

 

[laborsmith]

Id put others in danger for low and loud. Safety second

Despite our constant complaining, our elected representative persist in modifying fuel economy and vehicle safety laws, and now I see posted their justification. We do realize the reason the Sonic has TEN airbags is due to one of those regulations authorized by law, do we not? And yet there are posted in this forum numerous complaints that the Sonic weighs too much.

Fortunately the airbag likely only weight somewhat more than an ounce each. Or maybe it is the sensor. Well half a dozen of one six of the other, I am sure can't amount to much.

Laborsmith

 

[sx sonic]

Despite our constant complaining, our elected representative persist in modifying fuel economy and vehicle safety laws, and now I see posted their justification. We do realize the reason the Sonic has TEN airbags is due to one of those regulations authorized by law, do we not? And yet there are posted in this forum numerous complaints that the Sonic weighs too much.

Fortunately the airbag likely only weight somewhat more than an ounce each. Or maybe it is the sensor. Well half a dozen of one six of the other, I am sure can't amount to much.

Laborsmith

I hope you didn't take me seriously. I sometimes forget that sarcasm does not awlays play out well in text form.