Trifecta or BNR tune?
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Bosgarage57
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I just bought a bnr last week due to food reviews from it. A lot of people praise Jerry and BNR for his responsiveness. Although I've sent a couple emails and never answered. I would assume he's busy right now with it being tax time.
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Kuntryboy865
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His responsiveness is severely lacking, id put him on trifecta's level. I'm not sure which company is better. I hear BNR is better but with not being updated regularly about my BNR tune im not sure. I do know that when I switched to the BNR tune I had all kinds of cels and I ran lean. Almost had an undrivable car and I had to bug Jerry to help me.
mitdr774
also a dinner prick
BNR had both of my cars real close on the first shot. I do know that both are running far better than when they had a "T" tune in them. One would run excessive amounts of knock retard all the time and the other replaced about 1 quart of oil with gas over a 2400 mile drive. Those problems were resolved with the base tune BNR sent me.
EvolutionOX
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I still have a stock RS but plan to get a tune real soon. Was gonna go with Trifecta until I read up some more on others like BNR and with that new GTX14 turbo kit upgrade I was for sure gonna go with BNR.
From what I read BNR does seem better, not that Trifectas is bad or anything. Anything is better than stock tuned, but if BNR isn't very responsive with email I might have second thoughts now about which tunes to go with
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From what I read BNR does seem better, not that Trifectas is bad or anything. Anything is better than stock tuned, but if BNR isn't very responsive with email I might have second thoughts now about which tunes to go with
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Kuntryboy865
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I have had problems with his responsiveness all the time, logs sent no reply, no reply on fb messenger no reply when asked a question on bnr discussion. Kinda of feel miffed about this whole, you're buying a tuning service deal when I don't get the tuning service.. Kind of feel suspicious when he says message me tomorrow and i'll do your logs first thing and then when I do I don't hear back for a week. Don't tell me you're going to do my logs first thing if you aren't. That kind of dishonesty is what led me away from trifecta. I bought his "tuning service" based on everyone saying how awesome his customer service is and how awesome his tune is but so far not living up to my expectations.
He needs some sort of que system for people waiting in line so people don't feel left out in the cold on their tune. Something like how online universities grade papers, you submit your paper (this case a data log) and it tells you your spot in the que. I'm just gonna take a wait and see approach from now on, if don't hear back then i'll just chock it up as a loss and never buy anything from BNR again. I kind of feel like a moron, when I went and bought BNR stickers and plastered them all over my sonic.. I too wanted to represent BNR and praise him but i'm not going to be fake and tell people that its all gravy and say I get a response back right away.People need to know these things to make an educated purchase. I purchased his tune based on everyone saying how awesome his customer service is and how awesome the tune is. Either they are lying about the customer service or he's gone down the drain. The whole telling me one thing and not doing it also makes me not trust BNR. Sure its busy its tax season but people pay money for this "service". When I heard people say yeah he responds back "in a day or less" or "I submitted a data log at 11 west coast time and he got back to me an hour later, I was shocked how good his customer service is". Then I don't get any response back from him at all through various channels its just ugh makes me wish I never spent the money.
And by the way, Trifecta isn't any better at customer service, you'll be waiting just as long.
He needs some sort of que system for people waiting in line so people don't feel left out in the cold on their tune. Something like how online universities grade papers, you submit your paper (this case a data log) and it tells you your spot in the que. I'm just gonna take a wait and see approach from now on, if don't hear back then i'll just chock it up as a loss and never buy anything from BNR again. I kind of feel like a moron, when I went and bought BNR stickers and plastered them all over my sonic.. I too wanted to represent BNR and praise him but i'm not going to be fake and tell people that its all gravy and say I get a response back right away.People need to know these things to make an educated purchase. I purchased his tune based on everyone saying how awesome his customer service is and how awesome the tune is. Either they are lying about the customer service or he's gone down the drain. The whole telling me one thing and not doing it also makes me not trust BNR. Sure its busy its tax season but people pay money for this "service". When I heard people say yeah he responds back "in a day or less" or "I submitted a data log at 11 west coast time and he got back to me an hour later, I was shocked how good his customer service is". Then I don't get any response back from him at all through various channels its just ugh makes me wish I never spent the money.
And by the way, Trifecta isn't any better at customer service, you'll be waiting just as long.
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mitdr774
also a dinner prick
I did get a hold of BNR last night. He is swamped right now. Honestly, it seems to have been that way for a while. It is really easy for a message or email to get missed. There have been times where I have missed messages due to them ending up in the wrong place (sometimes I never get a notification and I have to go looking for the folder its in) and sometimes my email will switch which folder emails from a company I have been dealing with for years ends up in (its always fun when that important email you get every month suddenly ends up in the spam folder one random month).
Dholzman
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His response times have gotten longer over the past few months, but he's a one man show and is doing his best with how popular his product is. I've had trifecta, ive had multiple tunes with BNR, Even if wait times were dead even, i would still pick the BNR tune hands down any day. He is still way more responsive than what i ever recieved with trifecta.
I recently purchased a tune from BNR (Jerry). You can't expect a return email within a couple days... think about it on a human level. I would wait 3-4 days and send him another message asking how your tune is coming along. Have some patience young padawan and you will soon be in receipt of a sweet a$$ tune. I would have waited a month for what I got.
carsNskis
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I suggest you buy the equipment to write engine tunes, spend lots of time to find a balanced tune, then allow every goober with a variance the ability to have their tune custom programmed....
Once you get there you better learn to be humble because one month of slow (Not neglected, just slow) responses will have every wannabe forum professor ****ying on your reputation.
Calm your tits, your tune didn't go to crap because of a temporary delay in his otherwise stellar track record
.....drive it like you still owe the bank money
bluejay
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so why is there so much back and forth after u get a tune ? dont they sell a tune that u load onto ur car and be done with it. seems like these tunes need more love and affection then my wife and 8 month old . am i missing something here ? i look at these prices, hundred and hundreds of dollars . are guys modding their cars so often u need a new tune every week or are tunes a bad idea cause they need constant babysitting . i plan on doing an intake and maybe an exhaust on my car and from what i understand im going to need a tune b4 i see any performance gains but everytime i read a thread about tunes on this site i baiscly read nothing but negative comments, which makes me think keeping the car stock is just easier .
Kuntryboy865
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Just telling it like it is. Everyone says he's got this awesome customer service.I haven't seen it. I'm not going to sit here and kiss his ass, he has to prove to me before I praise him, that goes for every company I buy things/get services from. I'm not just a fanboy. I want proof that things are as good as people claim they are. And being dishonest isn't the best way to win over a customer.
No, he's suppose to dial it in for you. Gives you a base tune and you drive it around and see how you like it. If you want to make changes he's suppose to do that for you. For example if you want better fuel economy or whatever. Then he's suppose to make that happen.so why is there so much back and forth after u get a tune ? dont they sell a tune that u load onto ur car and be done with it. seems like these tunes need more love and affection then my wife and 8 month old . am i missing something here ? i look at these prices, hundred and hundreds of dollars . are guys modding their cars so often u need a new tune every week or are tunes a bad idea cause they need constant babysitting . i plan on doing an intake and maybe an exhaust on my car and from what i understand im going to need a tune b4 i see any performance gains but everytime i read a thread about tunes on this site i baiscly read nothing but negative comments, which makes me think keeping the car stock is just easier .
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Maybe it's my sparkling personality but....
.... I've had great success with WOT on getting help and the tune is running perfectly fine and has been for several months. I do think the tune has something to do with my UG not being able to record a 0-60 time but I still haven't nailed that down yet.
Great driveability with the updated tune that was available in December of 2015. Load it and go. And the switch to the stock tune by using the cruise switch is still the coolest thing about it. Lots more pop in the vehicle when the hot tune is selected. Best 0-30 time I had before was 2.4 seconds - tuned I've seen as low as 1.84 (but I question that) with around 2.0 seconds now the norm. The run from 30 to 60 always took 5.2 - 5.4 seconds stock - that number tuned is always below 5 seconds with a best of 4.4 seconds. Like I said, I can't seem to get a complete, hard 0-60 with the UG and the tune. I'm trying a couple of different iPhone apps to try and snag some good runs.
Tony
.... I've had great success with WOT on getting help and the tune is running perfectly fine and has been for several months. I do think the tune has something to do with my UG not being able to record a 0-60 time but I still haven't nailed that down yet.
Great driveability with the updated tune that was available in December of 2015. Load it and go. And the switch to the stock tune by using the cruise switch is still the coolest thing about it. Lots more pop in the vehicle when the hot tune is selected. Best 0-30 time I had before was 2.4 seconds - tuned I've seen as low as 1.84 (but I question that) with around 2.0 seconds now the norm. The run from 30 to 60 always took 5.2 - 5.4 seconds stock - that number tuned is always below 5 seconds with a best of 4.4 seconds. Like I said, I can't seem to get a complete, hard 0-60 with the UG and the tune. I'm trying a couple of different iPhone apps to try and snag some good runs.
Tony
Kuntryboy865
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The only thing that bugged me about the trifecta tune is that it was so twitchy. Sometimes a light tap on the gas and the car would take off. I've noticed my ultragauge reporting more accurate numbers (or so I think) with the base BNR tune. When I had the Trifecta tune when id punch it the ultra gauge wouldn't give an accurate hp and tq number. It would always stay in the 50's and 60's as far as hp and tq goes. With the BNR tune I've seen the tq number max out at 200 and HP 190. I'm sure the HP number isn't accurate to the wheels though.
Kannisto
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so why is there so much back and forth after u get a tune ? dont they sell a tune that u load onto ur car and be done with it. seems like these tunes need more love and affection then my wife and 8 month old . am i missing something here ? i look at these prices, hundred and hundreds of dollars . are guys modding their cars so often u need a new tune every week or are tunes a bad idea cause they need constant babysitting . i plan on doing an intake and maybe an exhaust on my car and from what i understand im going to need a tune b4 i see any performance gains but everytime i read a thread about tunes on this site i baiscly read nothing but negative comments, which makes me think keeping the car stock is just easier .
Hey man just so you know you will still see proper gains with bolt ons (intake, exhaust) with a stock tune. The throttling that you hear about on these forums are only in automatic transmissions. If you drive a manual (which you do) then you don't have to worry. There is torque management in the motor itself but it doesn't work the way people say it does on these forums.
I've been reading extensively and have been speaking to my gm guys to figure out this torque management crap. At the end of the day these static tunes are too much for our economy motors. When i see people running 23 psi with absolutely nothing else done to their car i can't help but cringe. If you really want to tune your car properly take it to a shop that knows small gm motors. Bluejay i know you live close so i will PM you more details soon.
Let the flaming begin.
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Kuntryboy865
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Once you go above 23 psi the car goes into limp mode.
carsNskis
New member
Everyone that's claimed it had experienced it first hand, it's not "fanboy" related. Hell, I emailed him a question about something totally unrelated and he got back to me within the hour.
For the record, Jerry doesn't sell his Customer Service (it's just part of his makeup) so if you don't see it you're not any worse off than if you had spent your money elsewhere.
.....drive it like you still owe the bank money
Kuntryboy865
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I know he doesn't sell customer service but its part of his business and its because of comments like yours is why I bought the tune. I've emailed him, messaged him on facebook and nothing, i've experienced it first hand too so don't get upset that I've mentioned it...
Kb865
I was really close to going BNR EFI Live but after reading that the Trifecta was new and improved (and it seemed that most of the twitchy complaints were from an earlier version) I went that way. No real twitchiness on what I've noticed. If you really plant it, away she goes.
I really bought the UG for the boost pressure and temp indicator along with the performance stuff. I'm bummed that I can't get a good 0-60 read. I tried this Dynolicious app on the iPhone but I get errors after every run. It sure seems like the car is way better than the 7.8's I was running but I have yet to prove it to myself.
Tony
I was really close to going BNR EFI Live but after reading that the Trifecta was new and improved (and it seemed that most of the twitchy complaints were from an earlier version) I went that way. No real twitchiness on what I've noticed. If you really plant it, away she goes.
I really bought the UG for the boost pressure and temp indicator along with the performance stuff. I'm bummed that I can't get a good 0-60 read. I tried this Dynolicious app on the iPhone but I get errors after every run. It sure seems like the car is way better than the 7.8's I was running but I have yet to prove it to myself.
Tony
