DDMworks 1.4L intake Testing

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Machine

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When are these Shipping?? I was supposidly going to get mine a week ago, and have heard nothing from Dave??? I realize the sonic is probably a bit low on their vehicle priority, but this is getting rediculous.
 
slitzell

slitzell

Boats n hoes
Machine said:
When are these Shipping?? I was supposidly going to get mine a week ago, and have heard nothing from Dave??? I realize the sonic is probably a bit low on their vehicle priority, but this is getting rediculous.
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heard it. They said they weer shipping pre orders this week. Today is friday:(
 
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Dave@ddmworks

Supporting Vendor
Machine said:
When are these Shipping?? I was supposidly going to get mine a week ago, and have heard nothing from Dave??? I realize the sonic is probably a bit low on their vehicle priority, but this is getting rediculous.
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Actually the Sonic is now getting more development time then MINI's and Miata's combined, we love the car, it is one of the daily drivers around here. With some of the modifications we have been testing on it we have created a fun to drive car that gets great fuel economy.

It is a bummer that it is taking longer to get these intakes out then we originally planned. Hopefully you received the email I sent over explaining that the production tubes that we received were different from the prototype tube.

If not, here is where we are at -

The production tubes took 2 months longer then they should of and when they came in, the bend radius, the bend angle and the MAF location were all slightly different from the prototype sent out. These slight difference are very important as slight differences in the placement of the MAF sensor in the tube, bends, etc. cause the ECM to read the amount of airflow differently, which causes the fuel trims to be off, and if the fuel trims get off enough, that is what lights the check engine light on the dash that many owners have seen with other intakes. So with the new production tube finally arriving, we had to get the intake on the car and put some miles on the car and see how the fuel trims reacted under a wide range of driving conditions. Once we saw that the fuel trims looked good, the next thing we had to do was go back and modify the drawings for the heat shield to match the new change in the production tube. Typically it takes 6 weeks from the time we send the drawings over for a new part for the part to be made, they are pushing the new part through production as fast as possible and we were supposed to have them today.

We strive to make sure that all of out products are the best they can be before sending out the first one.

Thanks,
Dave
 
slitzell

slitzell

Boats n hoes
Dave@ddmworks said:
Actually the Sonic is now getting more development time then MINI's and Miata's combined, we love the car, it is one of the daily drivers around here. With some of the modifications we have been testing on it we have created a fun to drive car that gets great fuel economy.

It is a bummer that it is taking longer to get these intakes out then we originally planned. Hopefully you received the email I sent over explaining that the production tubes that we received were different from the prototype tube.

If not, here is where we are at -

The production tubes took 2 months longer then they should of and when they came in, the bend radius, the bend angle and the MAF location were all slightly different from the prototype sent out. These slight difference are very important as slight differences in the placement of the MAF sensor in the tube, bends, etc. cause the ECM to read the amount of airflow differently, which causes the fuel trims to be off, and if the fuel trims get off enough, that is what lights the check engine light on the dash that many owners have seen with other intakes. So with the new production tube finally arriving, we had to get the intake on the car and put some miles on the car and see how the fuel trims reacted under a wide range of driving conditions. Once we saw that the fuel trims looked good, the next thing we had to do was go back and modify the drawings for the heat shield to match the new change in the production tube. Typically it takes 6 weeks from the time we send the drawings over for a new part for the part to be made, they are pushing the new part through production as fast as possible and we were supposed to have them today.

We strive to make sure that all of out products are the best they can be before sending out the first one.

Thanks,
Dave
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Thank you for the response i think this should put people at ease. Ican't wait to get mine
 
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Dave@ddmworks

Supporting Vendor
The pricing FYI is all confirmed at $250 for the initial batch, but the stainless heat shield, extra hardware, etc came in a little more then we initially thought and after the first batch of these the price will be $295.

We do have an Injen intake here that we have been doing some testing on along with the stock intake. We did some pressure testing on all 3 intakes and here is what we found -

Sonic_pressure_testing.jpg


We have an apparatus that you can hook up any intake to and measure the resistance at different suctions. Nothing too surprising with the results, the stock intake has the highest restriction, the Injen has more bends then ours and has slightly higher restriction and ours was the lowest restriction. This doesn't mean that any particular intake makes more power then the others, but this is something that we check on intakes to get a sense of how well they flow. Just FYI.
 
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laborsmith

New member
I don't think there is a list, you just need to order. Probably by contacting Ivy at DDMWorks. I am sure an email would set the ball in motion.

Laborsmith
 
slitzell

slitzell

Boats n hoes
Dave your killing me, you keep posting all these pictures and information on this intake, im losing sleep wondering how ausome the day will be when I receive it. I can't wait. So for the first batch of preorders will we receive an email asking us about powder coating or any additional options?
 
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Dave@ddmworks

Supporting Vendor
slitzell said:
Dave your killing me, you keep posting all these pictures and information on this intake, im losing sleep wondering how ausome the day will be when I receive it. I can't wait. So for the first batch of preorders will we receive an email asking us about powder coating or any additional options?
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You will get an email notification as we get closer to shipping asking if you want to have a custom powdercoat finish, all of the tubes will come polished aluminum if they are not powdercoated. I went over to the company that laser cuts the heat shields today and the material is going on the laser tomorrow :banana:

All of the dyno testing on this has been interesting, here is a preview:

Sonic_DDMworks_vs_Injen_vs_stock.JPG
 
rdss

rdss

Junior Member
Dave, which one is which? I'm guessing Green is the DDM, Dark Blue is Injen and Light Blue is stock. Is the engine tuned for each set up prior to running them?
 
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