Supercharger option for 1.8

[sx sonic]

Worse on a scale but better than nothing and if staying below 8lbs of boost engine internals need not be upgraded. There are good reasons for going with a centrifugal supercharger otherwise why are so many using them?

Space available needs to be considered and as I posted I have seen no evidence that anyone is working on a raised cowl hood for the Sonic.

All forms of forced induction rob power but the idea is to get the most net in a cost effective manner and that includes working within the space available.

And remember, this is a thread about supercharging and not about which is better, supercharging or turbocharging.



Laborsmith

Laborsmith, as always you bring up great points. Despite the fact that I end up quoting you in what appears to be a counterpoint, I am actually just laying out the otherside of the equation... An archangel if you will.

Despite your voiceings of the contrary you always provide very knowledgeable feedback that is pragmatic in delivery..... It's good stuff...

You're right, I'm just sayin

 

[klb1.8]

Good for you man! Hope you love it! And lol it will come in time

Yea i was easy bait for some ricers i stalled in front of i was releasing the clutch to quick with not enough gas.. its funny cuz when i was test driving it i didnt stall at all.. i felt like a little girl haha.....anyways the turbo has way more torque.. even if you cant drive very well

 

[$ub$onic]

Time to tune it!

 

[MrSnuggles]

I think this calls for a photoshop picture of what the supercharger on the sonic would look like. lol actually i wouldn't mind this at all, seeing I have the 1.8, and seeing how i can't drive stick. Supercharger would do the trick on a little bit more hp/tq also def be something to look into in the near.... i mean far... future.

 

[klb1.8]

Dude im down

 

[klb1.8]

I think this calls for a photoshop picture of what the supercharger on the sonic would look like. lol actually i wouldn't mind this at all, seeing I have the 1.8, and seeing how i can't drive stick. Supercharger would do the trick on a little bit more hp/tq also def be something to look into in the near.... i mean far... future.

Driving stick is possible for anybody i think the trick to stay calm and the only real issue i see with a blower kit is tranny longevity...but that would be cool to see and help the 1.8 crap torque maybe head work would be best

 

[cndctrdj]

Anyone know if the intake mani matches up to the other ecotec ones

 

[Eric Smit]

doubt it.

 

[mitdr774]

If you are thinking the other ECOtec models sold in the US, I highly doubt it. Maybe a Z18XE or a handful of the A16LE_ engines. Seeing as how the LNF, LSJ, L61, and whatever the 2.4 engines are called use a different layout for the manifolds, I suspect the ports are also completely different, either way they probably would not fit between the engine and firewall without getting in the way of something.

 

[doreo]

im probably going to look into a vortech or something similar depending how much money i can save.

 

[DevilSonic89]

I was also thinking about vortech

 

[SonicBoy24]

I wouldn't mind supachargin' my automatic, it would make for some hella nice drag races, plus I could still use it as a DD without worrying about reliability.

Still tryna find a project car for this kind of stuff though.

 

[SonicBoy24]

If I did a forced induction 1.8 I would go supercharged. Turbos are cool but the sudden snap of power might not be good, with the super charger you have a constant stream of power through the rpm range

punctuation would have been nice here, took me a couple reads to know what you were trying to say.

 

[ChrisJ]

My beef with superchargers is they have one benefit over turbochargers with two negatives.

Pros
Power off the line

Cons.
Less power at flywheel due to consumption of supercharger
more fuel consumption.


The only thing power off the line is worth is bragging rights. Same goes for straight line drag racing. This means a turbocharger is the best way to go for a street car / daily driver / bus / truck / front end loader/ bull dozer/ tank/ rascal scooter / and so on and so on.


I suppose you could do a combined belt and turbine driven super charger for the best of both worlds, but in my opinion its a waste of space,weight and money for bragging rights with no practical use.

 

[RoXXXanne13]

lol ive head of a votec 305 or 350/ lol a 1.8 vortec? hmmm I guess GM could do it? pretty sure its just something they do with the valves n ****? mild head work for a tad more power? am I right?

 

[ChrisJ]

lol ive head of a votec 305 or 350/ lol a 1.8 vortec? hmmm I guess GM could do it? pretty sure its just something they do with the valves n ****? mild head work for a tad more power? am I right?

Yeah I think Vortec heads were a special TWO VALVE head (hint) that was bolted into SBCs to improve them some. And they did work and are good heads, but would be a severe downgrade from the stock 1.8 head.

I'm including the 4.3 V6 as a SBC being its a 350 with 2 cylinders removed.

 

[River_Rat]

lol ive head of a votec 305 or 350/ lol a 1.8 vortec? hmmm I guess GM could do it? pretty sure its just something they do with the valves n ****? mild head work for a tad more power? am I right?

You are confusing the Chevy "Vortec" heads with Vortech brand superchargers. Similar name; completely different animal.

 

[laborsmith]

In addition to the V 5 linked above there is the V 9:
V-9 Superchargers | Vortech Superchargers

Laborsmith

Remember the ground rule, discussing superchargers, not whether turbocharging or supercharging is better one over the other. - L

 

[theenico]

The Vortech confusion is amusing.

ProCharger makes a better supercharger than Vortech. Vortech uses Chinese unicorn turds for bearings.

 

[Isambard]

I suppose you could do a combined belt and turbine driven super charger for the best of both worlds, but in my opinion its a waste of space,weight and money for bragging rights with no practical use.

VW would like to have a word with you

From what I understand though, they axed it for the reasons you mentioned above, most of all the cost.